NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / Sport / Rugby / Rugby World Cup

2019 Rugby World Cup: Paul Lewis - All Blacks defeat leaves intriguing questions for the future

Paul Lewis
By Paul Lewis
Contributing Sports Writer·NZ Herald·
28 Oct, 2019 06:00 AM5 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen. Photo / Photosport

All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen. Photo / Photosport

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

COMMENT:

There's an old saying: Don't be sad it's over; be glad it happened.

That's where we are – or should be – with the All Blacks' significant loss to England in the World Cup semifinal.

Few countries – and maybe none – will win back-to-back World Cups; it is a monstrously difficult thing to do as is the three-peat which can now earn the adjective "fabled", ranking with the Holy Grail, El Dorado and King Solomon's mines.

READ MORE:
• 2019 Rugby World Cup: All Blacks fall to third in world ranking after semifinal loss to England
• 2019 Rugby World Cup: All Blacks react to England semifinal defeat and Wales bronze medal match
• 2019 Rugby World Cup: England could face fine for V-formation haka response
• 2019 Rugby World Cup: Journalist explains question that Steve Hansen called 'disrespectful'

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Few (and maybe none) will ever go 18 World Cup matches without a defeat; few teams will ever be held in such awe as the All Blacks have been in this magical near-decade from 2011 to 2019.

Yet – and this is the quintessential nature of top sport – the 19-7 defeat by a clinical England poses many questions for All Black teams of the future.

Dejected All Blacks Codie Taylor, Joe Moody and Nepo Laulala on the bench. Photo / Photosport
Dejected All Blacks Codie Taylor, Joe Moody and Nepo Laulala on the bench. Photo / Photosport

England out-thought and outplayed the All Blacks to such an extent that all they failed in was scoring the extra points to underline the fact they beat the All Blacks playing like All Blacks. In the first half, they attacked with vigour, purpose and skill and, in the second half, closed the match out with 'they shall not pass' defence. It could have been worse – even a lot worse; the scoreboard flattered the All Blacks a little.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

It was a clash of philosophies: the All Blacks' blindingly fast attack versus England's asphyxiating defence. It's sad Steve Hansen and co made mistakes. The Scott Barrett selection at blindside flanker was always a risk and represented the first time the selectors changed their side to counter the strengths of the opposition instead of pressing home their own advantages.

They also made a mistake trumpeting how that change was designed to disrupt the questionable England lineout. That pigeon came home to roost and immediately crapped in the nest; the All Blacks' lineout misfired. Hansen & co were lauded as masters of mind games before this test; that one missed the target.

Discover more

Rugby World Cup

Gregor Paul: Defeat will make the All Blacks stronger

27 Oct 04:00 PM
Rugby World Cup

World Cup player ratings: How all 31 All Blacks rated

27 Oct 10:00 PM
All Blacks

All Blacks' mana undimmed, grief will pass: expert

27 Oct 04:00 PM
Rugby World Cup

Steve Braunias: The secret dialogues of Fozzy and Shag after All Blacks loss

27 Oct 04:00 PM

The loose forwards (and pack as a whole) did not adequately control the breakdown – that honour belonged to England flankers Tom Curry and Sam Underhill. The breakdown is the engine room of possession. England's engine ticked over smoothly all day.

England's Courtney Lawes and Kieran Read battle for possession. Photo / Photosport
England's Courtney Lawes and Kieran Read battle for possession. Photo / Photosport

That said, let's not forget Scott Barrett ran down Jonny May as the England speedster seemed set to run away and score. Even if May later seemed a bit restricted, maybe carrying an injury, it was a vital piece of defence from Barrett who will, most assuredly, be a vital player for the 2020 All Blacks and thereafter.

It suddenly seemed a mistake to have Jordie Barrett come on as a wing though this column has consistently endorsed that player. His error didn't help. Nor did silly penalties by senior players like Sam Whitelock though, as Hansen pointed out at the end, those are the mistakes made when desperately chasing a game.

Finally, it's sad Hansen made another mistake, calling out TV3 nice guy Andrew Gourdie for a "disrespectful" question at the press conference afterwards. It is not disrespectful to ask whether the All Blacks turned up with the right mindset.

Hansen took that to mean the questioner thought the All Blacks hadn't been trying. There's a vast difference between that and the intent behind the query: Did they turn up with the required mental strength to carry out the highly demanding high-octane attack game against one of the toughest defences in the business?

A disrespectful question would be: 'Does your husband play?' or 'Do you think training in ballet shoes would help?' Generally speaking, there are not otherwise many disrespectful questions at a press conference when the world's long-time best team loses when most of the planet expects it not to.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

All that said, Hansen can sail off in the sunset still affirmed as the most successful coach the All Blacks have ever had. He has been a joy with his laconic, droll, essentially Kiwi humour and practicality – and his success. We can only wish him well; he will be much missed. Sad he's going but we're glad he happened.

All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen. Photo / Photosport
All Blacks head coach Steve Hansen. Photo / Photosport

He leaves intriguing unanswered questions like: will Ian Foster be the next head coach or has the door opened wide enough to let other contenders through now? Will the 2020 All Blacks keep that attacking philosophy or will the next coach adopt more of a grindy-grindy approach? What will happen to dual playmakers Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo'unga (his defence exposed by England) and where will Damian McKenzie fit in?

Whatever happens, the All Blacks are looking at a rebuilding phase now and it will be fascinating to watch. I, for one, hope they keep the attacking philosophy. It was, by all accounts, how the players wanted to play the game and it is good to watch.

If someone beats them by playing that style better and/or by defending like men possessed, then so be it. That's sport – that's why we watch it.

And if it is sad this time round, the one thing you can bet on is that All Black rugby will make us glad again. Soon.

Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

Latest from Rugby World Cup

New Zealand

'Two bits of gold': How ballet and sumo transformed the All Blacks

12 Jul 05:00 PM
New Zealand

Watch Live : Scott Robertson live with Jason Pine

New Zealand

'Never felt so alone': Foster lifts lid on battles with NZ Rugby bosses

17 Jun 05:00 PM

From early mornings to easy living

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from Rugby World Cup

'Two bits of gold': How ballet and sumo transformed the All Blacks

'Two bits of gold': How ballet and sumo transformed the All Blacks

12 Jul 05:00 PM

The All Blacks learned to reduce 'turf toe' from the Royal New Zealand Ballet.

Watch Live : Scott Robertson live with Jason Pine

Watch Live : Scott Robertson live with Jason Pine

'Never felt so alone':  Foster lifts lid on battles with NZ Rugby bosses

'Never felt so alone': Foster lifts lid on battles with NZ Rugby bosses

17 Jun 05:00 PM
Premium
Woodman-Wickliffe on babies, books, broadcasting and King’s Birthday honour

Woodman-Wickliffe on babies, books, broadcasting and King’s Birthday honour

02 Jun 03:00 AM
Solar bat monitors uncover secrets of Auckland’s night sky
sponsored

Solar bat monitors uncover secrets of Auckland’s night sky

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP