An alleged member of a military-style training camp said: "No one wants to kill, we are training to kill because we will probably have to ...'', a court heard this morning.
Online conversations between two people the police say were involved in military-style training camps were read in the High Court at Auckland where Tame Wairere Iti, Te Rangikaiwhiria Kemara, Emily Felicity Bailey and Urs Signer are on trial.
All four have denied charges of possessing guns and belonging to an organised criminal group which had objectives including murder, arson and using guns against the police.
Crown prosecutor Emma Finlayson-Davis read to the court an extract of communications between Kemara and a woman identified as Trudi Paraha.
She said the conversation included Kemara offering advice on the type of gun Ms Paraha might want to buy or use.
Kemara told Ms Paraha: "Same one che guevara and them used and is still used today by the US navy seals.
Paraha responds: "I don't really want to kill if I can help it... well if che baby used it...''
Kemara replied: "No one wants to kill, we are training to kill because we will probably have to... ie being attached... attacked.''
Other conversations included one between Iti and Kemara in which camps, known as rama, were organised.
Constable Gregory Hall examined the conversations. Under cross-examination from Iti's lawyer Russell Fairbrother, Mr Hall confirmed he had been told that Iti had taken part in the conversation but could not verify it.
He said he was sure there would be another police officer who could verify that Iti was one of the people taking part in the conversations.
Earlier the 11 jurors deciding the case watched footage captured by hidden cameras in the bush around Ruatoki.
The images show masked people running with what police say are molotov cocktails.
Jason Lunjevich, a Detective Sergeant from Auckland Metro Crime and Operations Support, told the court he had spent days, possibly weeks, watching the footage from the camps.
He said he pieced together who was at the camps in 2006 and 2007 by comparing footage with items of clothing seized in police raids.
Mr Lunjevich has been pointing out people he believes were carrying molotov cocktails near an old oven.
The court earlier heard that remnants of glass bottles containing fuel were found around the oven by police.
Yesterday, during one sequence of video he identified Iti handing a gun to his nephew Rawiri. He also pointed out Signer holding a gun.
He is yet to be cross-examined by lawyers for the defence.
The trial is set down for three months.