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Australian Qantas passengers furious after frequent flyer points vanish

By Kate Schneider
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7 May, 2018 12:17 AM10 mins to read

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Qantas passengers are not happy. Photo / Supplied

Qantas passengers are not happy. Photo / Supplied

Shocked Australian passengers have hit out at Qantas after their hard-earned frequent flyer points vanished from their accounts.

The airline was flooded with complaints after posting a promotional video on its Facebook page last month asking "What will you do with your Qantas points?"

The post was meant to be inspiring, but to some flyers it proved to be the final insult. Because, unfortunately, the answer to the question was "nothing" for many unsuspecting passengers who went to cash in their points only to discover they no longer existed, leaving them "disgusted".

While some were simply angry about the carrier's rule that sees frequent flyer points deleted from accounts after 18 months of inactivity, others claim they were the victims of a company decision that left them blindsided.

The Qantas frequent flyer scheme is also popular with Kiwis, but it is unknown if they have had points go missing.

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The root of the problem originates from a deal made between the airline and Woolworths back in 2016. Under changes to the Woolworths Rewards programme, the default option for Australian Qantas passengers changed to earning discounts with the supermarket giant instead of frequent flyer points.

Those wishing to continue earning Qantas points while shopping at Woolworths needed to manually go into their account and select that option.

Qantas says the rebranding was well-publicised at the time, but some passengers say they didn't get the memo and instead received a nasty surprise. They claim to have found out this year that they actually hadn't been earning any points since the switchover and thus they had all expired.

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An email from Qantas regarding the Woolworths Rewards Card.
An email from Qantas regarding the Woolworths Rewards Card.

While Qantas said it had sent emails to its customers notifying them of the change in advance, some claim they didn't receive one or that it had ended up going to their spam folder. Others said an email wasn't enough — why didn't Qantas call or text them to warn them before "stealing" their points?

For some, the loss amounted to hundreds of thousands of points, worth thousands of dollars.

Points are usually worth around one cent each, depending on what they're used for.

Unhappy Qantas passengers took to the Qantas Facebook page.
Unhappy Qantas passengers took to the Qantas Facebook page.

One passenger wrote on the Qantas Facebook page of their loss: "Qantas wiped 360,000 points from me, all accumulated from fifo work, only contacted by email when they wiped my account, very disappointed Qantas."

Another said: "Qantas the reason most people lost their points was when Woolworths stop(ped) their rewards points system. If Qantas was reasonable they would do the right thing by these people."

'I WAS SHOCKED THEY CAN DELETE YOUR POINTS'

Stephen Roberts is among the Aussie passengers claiming to have had points wiped without warning. The 49-year-old from Canberra said 175,618 points disappeared from his account last April.

It was a hard-earned stash too; he had been accumulating Qantas points since his early 20s with his first credit card, and had only redeemed them on one previous occasion.

"I was saving the rest of my points — just under $1000 worth — for something special from JB Hi-Fi, like a high-end digital camera or an expensive Dyson vacuum cleaner," Roberts told news.com.au. "Little did I know what was to come."

He only discovered the loss a few months ago.

"When I logged on to my Qantas account for the first time in a long time back in late 2017, I was in shock [as] all my accumulated points were 'expired'."

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Stephen lost all these points.
Stephen lost all these points.

He called the airline for an explanation and — hopefully — some compassion but instead was simply told: "You need to manage your points."

"I asked why you did not notify me before you took my points? 'We do, we send an email in the month before they expire.' I checked for this email at the time Qantas said they sent it. Not surprisingly, I could find nothing."

It turns out that the email had been swallowed up by his spam box, at a time when Roberts said he had been in the middle of moving his family — including two young children — interstate. He questioned why Qantas didn't call him or even text, considering they had his number.

"It was a very hectic time ... the last thing on my mind was managing my Qantas points, but that is exactly what Qantas expected me to do. Any my punishment for not doing this? The loss of all my points."

He continued to try to get the points back, without luck.

"I called them several times over a two-week period, pleading with Qantas, trying to explain that these were my hard-earned points over 25 years and I was saving them for something I really needed."

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More disgruntled customers.
More disgruntled customers.

He was simply told: "We don't give back expired points."

"This company lacks any decency or compassion that you would hope our national airline would have ... Shame Qantas, shame.

"Qantas would seemingly be making [a fortune] ... by this callous act, repeated on countless unsuspecting members like myself. The recent Facebook activity confirms there any many in this situation, some losing double or triple the number of points I lost.

"This has left a very bitter feeling towards Qantas, so much so I avoid flying with them if at all possible."

While he's given up on getting his points back for now, he hopes that collective action may have more success in "righting this wrong".

Nathalie Goerke Childs is another traveller who has had bad luck with Qantas points.

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The 48-year-old from Victoria had saved up 9500 points by Christmas 2017 but they vanished.

"I was ripped off and had my rewards points wiped," she told news.com.au. "I thought I could regain them by shopping at Woolies, but due to misinformation this dream is now dead as well. Scammed.

"I was told I could regain them if I accumulate points by flying and shopping at another source. Have since been told by Woolworths that I only shopped $1000 and it needs to be more than $2000, or will not be converted into Qantas points.

"That means I lose the expired points ... Qantas should be reminded that they are dealing with people, not chattels."

Sure enough, my points have expired too.
Sure enough, my points have expired too.
The points warning I received, with the warning in small writing below.
The points warning I received, with the warning in small writing below.

Curious, as I too had missed the memo, I checked my own measly frequent flyer balance only to find it also now at 0. (I haven't flown much in recent times and prefer using my rewards for grocery discounts.) However, last June I had over 14,000 points — tiny in the scheme of things, but it was something.

I did find warning from Qantas that they'd expire on June 30 last year but it was in small print within the monthly balance update email, and we all know many people don't read that.

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'WELL-PUBLICISED'

Flying in the face of what I'd just discovered when looking at my own account balance, a Qantas spokesperson said the Woolworths switchover was well publicised at the time, and that it's simple to keep earning points.

"It's really easy to stay active in the Qantas Frequent Flyer programme — it's as simple as earning or redeeming one Qantas Point within 18 months," the spokesperson said.

"Even if members aren't flying regularly there are a variety of ways to earn or use points on the ground through everyday spend using a Qantas Points-earning credit card, buying a burger or watching a movie at the cinema."

The airline said it had announced in the media at the time: "Frequent flyers who don't opt in will receive money off their shopping rather than earning Qantas Points. You must opt in online (via the Woolworths website) to convert Woolworths Points to Qantas Points."

'A LESSON'

If nothing else, this incident provides a lesson in the importance of managing your frequent flyer accounts frequently — a task that most Australians would dread almost as much as completing a tax return.

That's according to Angus Kidman, editor-in-chief of comparison site Finder.com.au and a "manic frequent flyer".

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Kidman said it's not unusual for rewards schemes to have time limits where points will expire upon inactivity and it's up to us to manage them.

"Earning points through shopping or your credit card counts as activity, but the onus is on the consumer to make sure they check that points are actually being credited," Kidman said.

More complaints on the Qantas Facebook page.
More complaints on the Qantas Facebook page.

He said that following the Woolworths Rewards rebrand — which came after an earlier rebrand in 2015 — customers were responsible for amending their Qantas details.

"With the new programme you could again convert Woolworths Rewards into Qantas Points, but you had to register your Qantas details again to do that, it didn't carry over from the earlier registration.

"That's where some people got caught out — if they were originally enrolled in Everyday Rewards and didn't realise the scheme changed [twice], they could have thought they were earning when in fact they weren't.

"If you assumed that your shopping was topping up your balance but it wasn't, having your points cancelled by Qantas after 18 months of no activity would come as a rude shock."

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So checking your balance now and again can pay off.

"If you're hoping to use frequent flyer points in the future, log into your account once a month to make sure you are earning when you think you are. If your points have expired, it can't hurt to contact Qantas and ask nicely if they can be reinstated, but under the terms of the programme, the airline is not obliged to do that."

WHO REALLY BENEFITS FROM POINTS?

According to consumer advocacy group Choice, frequent flyer points gain customer loyalty and contribute "a significant profit" to airlines' bottom lines.

The consumer advocate states on its website: "Airlines sell points to third parties, such as credit card companies, or businesses such as hotels and car hire companies, who use the points to entice customers.

"So long as they sell the points for more money than it costs them for customers to redeem them, the airline is winning. Even better for them if the points expire before they're redeemed."

So it's clear who wins the most from the frequent flyer scheme, and it's "definitely the airline", said Steve Worthington, an adjunct professor at Swinburne Business School. As well as being a great money maker, the personal data passengers give away for free while using such programmes is priceless for companies.

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Their ultimate advice?

"Unless you fly often and are prepared to get your head around a very complicated (and ever-changing) system, don't let the pursuit of frequent flyer points dictate your itinerary.

"And before you think about spending any extra money in order to earn points, weigh up the reward benefit by multiplying the points by 0.01 — the result will be the approximate dollar value of your points."

If you're spending points, you'll get the best bang for your buck on seat upgrades.

However, point are becoming less valuable these days — when Choice did its frequent flyer point breakdown in June 2015, points used for seat upgrades were worth as much as 14 cents but now the best value upgrade found was worth less than half that amount.

"When it comes to redeeming points for flights, in 2015, points were worth on average 1.4-1.5 cents on domestic flights, and 0.7-0.8 cents on international flights. Now, Qantas points redeemed for flights are worth closer to 1.1 cents on domestic, and 0.7 cents on international, while Virgin points are worth around 1 cent for domestic and 0.7 cents for international."

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On a final note, do remember that Virgin's Velocity frequent flyer points expire after 24 months of inactivity (previously it was 36 months).

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