NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather forecasts

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
    • The Great NZ Road Trip
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
    • Cooking the Books
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • What the Actual
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / New Zealand

Kiwi doctors speak up on Medical Council language policy

Qiuyi Tan
By Qiuyi Tan
Reporter·NZ Herald·
14 Dec, 2021 04:03 AM4 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

Dr Clyde Wade took an English exam in 1972 to qualify for medical practice in the US. Photo / Alan Gibson.

Dr Clyde Wade took an English exam in 1972 to qualify for medical practice in the US. Photo / Alan Gibson.

The former Waikato health chief has defended the Medical Council of New Zealand's language policy after a US doctor called it bureaucratic "nonsense".

Retired cardiologist and ex-head of medicine at Waikato District Health Board Dr Clyde Wade said the Council is tough on language requirements because English competency is critical to medical practice here.

He was responding to a Herald report on Sunday about a US doctor who was asked to take an English test when applying to practise in New Zealand. The request was dropped last Friday after a month of email exchanges.

Language testing goes both ways, Clyde said. He too had to sit a test in 1972 as a graduating medical student to qualify for practice in the US.

"The exam consisted of a two to three-hour paper in the morning and another one in the afternoon.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

"At lunchtime there was an oral English exam for 30 mins, where a man from the US embassy (about 25 of us were sitting the exam in Wellington) would read out a phrase and we would have to write an answer in our exam books. Most of the questions were at primary school level and were greeted by gales of laughter."

He believes the US doctor's Indian name had nothing to do with the Council's language assessment. "It would have been the same if he was German, French or Polish," Clyde said.

Dr Kannan Subramaniam agrees. "It would be right for MCNZ to assess someone's proficiency in English whether they are named Benjamin Button, Ramandeep Kahlon or Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, if they are new arrivals to New Zealand," said the global medical lead at pharmaceutical company Viatris.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

"Surely applying to be a doctor in a foreign country one would expect due diligence and scrutiny," said Justin Hunt, a Kiwi software business owner in Japan.

Doctors applying for NZ registration must show their ability to speak and understand English is "sufficient to protect the health and safety of the public", according to the Council's language policy.

This can be done in eight ways, including having primary medical qualification from an NZ, Australian, UK, Irish, US, Canadian, or South African medical school; at least two years of work in an English language institution; or passing a test like the International English Language Testing System (IELTS).

Several readers wrote in to share their experiences of sitting English exams to qualify for work here and overseas after the Herald report.

Discover more

New Zealand

US doctor asked to take English test to practise in NZ

12 Dec 06:25 AM
World

South Africa's Omicron outbreaks may already be running out of steam

14 Dec 12:54 AM
New Zealand

Under fire anti vax doctors open their clinic doors as investigation by health authorities continues

14 Dec 12:05 AM
New Zealand

Nurse 'wholeheartedly sorry' over online threats to attack vaccination buses

13 Dec 08:49 PM

"Well as a NZ'er I had to sit a written and oral English test to work in America, so fair's fair!" said a senior Kiwi doctor who did not wish to be named.

"I just thought it was an amusing additional requirement in the application process and I was surprised that I didn't get 100 per cent on the test!" an anaesthesist said about her UK experience.

David Cittadini believes the leeway New Zealand has shown in lifting the US doctor's test requirement would not have happened there. "There are zero dispensations in the USA, if you have to sit an English test you have to sit an English test," he said.

"Any form of immigration across any country is very difficult emotionally, legally and administratively," said Cittadini, a Kiwi living in the US.

Others were sympathetic of the hoops people have to jump through to prove their language competence.

Early childhood teacher Sonja Steinmetz was also asked to take an English test when she was applying for her provisional teacher's registration in 2016.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Sonja Steinmetz has a diploma in early childhood education from the University of Auckland. Photo / Supplied
Sonja Steinmetz has a diploma in early childhood education from the University of Auckland. Photo / Supplied

The Singaporean of mixed German and Indian descent had just completed her graduate diploma from the University of Auckland the year before. She also had a degree from the University of Bristol, studied acting in New York, and worked as a radio DJ for an English language station in Singapore.

The test cost a few hundred dollars, a significant sum for Steinmetz who was earning minimum wage as a relief teacher at the time.

She reached out to her primary and secondary schools in Singapore, asking them to dig through 15-year-old records in order to write letters to the Education Council (now the Teaching Council) to show that she was indeed a student there and all the classes used English.

The entire process was done in hard copy and took months, so she hears the frustration felt by the US doctor.

"I thought it was laughable that they wanted me to go as far back as primary school. Who cares even if I learned it in sign language?

"I'd already gone to two universities where English was the main language."

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Save

    Share this article

Latest from New Zealand

New Zealand

Kāinga Ora appears not to care about mistreated dogs - neighbour

13 May 09:57 AM
New Zealand|crime

'Investigation cannot be compromised': Top cop accepts McSkimming resignation 'raises questions'

13 May 08:12 AM
New Zealand

'Truly amazing': Schick family launches fundraiser for emergency services after tragedy

13 May 08:07 AM

One tiny baby’s fight to survive

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from New Zealand

Kāinga Ora appears not to care about mistreated dogs - neighbour

Kāinga Ora appears not to care about mistreated dogs - neighbour

13 May 09:57 AM

Three dogs in Bucklands Beach were seized and euthanised because of neglect.

'Investigation cannot be compromised': Top cop accepts McSkimming resignation 'raises questions'

'Investigation cannot be compromised': Top cop accepts McSkimming resignation 'raises questions'

13 May 08:12 AM
'Truly amazing': Schick family launches fundraiser for emergency services after tragedy

'Truly amazing': Schick family launches fundraiser for emergency services after tragedy

13 May 08:07 AM
'You need help': Judge urges man to stop drinking after 13th drink-driving conviction

'You need help': Judge urges man to stop drinking after 13th drink-driving conviction

13 May 08:00 AM
Connected workers are safer workers 
sponsored

Connected workers are safer workers 

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • What the Actual
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven CarGuide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP