David Cunliffe turned up to the Herald in an old taxi van, owned by a mate who'd been driving him around for years - no DPS, no press secretary. Quite a change from John Key who had arrived for his interview a few days previously with a press secretary and
Cunliffe's Kiwi dream
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Labour leader David Cunliffe at Bluewater Hotel, Ahuriri in Napier. Photo / Warren Buckland
Cunliffe confirms that a Labour-led Government will overturn the recent employment law changes around collective bargaining - "Those have been a big step backwards... and have really cut back unions ability to negotiate on behalf of their members. It's just not fair."
They will also introduce a 15 dollar minimum wage within 100 days of gaining power. And introduce a "living wage" of $18.40 an hour in core state services.
He agrees that managing the rights of workers and big - often multi-national - corporations will be a delicate balancing act.
"We need to be the Government for the whole country, which means we are going to have an eye to business growth as well as to the rights of workers... It's also working with the business community to create new opportunities... And having employees that are productive, reasonably well-paid and empowered to make a difference in their business, that's pretty smart HR management."
And what sort of PM will he be if things go his way this year?
"One with a real heart for the people, one who deeply cares about the well-being of all New Zealanders, one who wants to see a restoration of the Kiwi dream, one who won't put up with backroom deals for the big boys while the average family is struggling."