In a new interview featured in TIME's latest issue, presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump discussed his oft-criticized temperament, the reasons behind his swift political rise and, er, Lydia Ko.

Trump was talking about the lessons he had learned from golf when his focus shifted from the natural style of Jack Nicklaus, to the world's top female golfer.

On what he's learned from golf:

"It's like, why is it that Jack Nicklaus won so many golf tournaments? Right? Why is it that Babe Ruth could hit more home runs than all the teams in the American League? Right? They said to him, 'Babe, how do you hit the long ball?' And he said, 'I don't know, man, I just swing at it.' Which is sort of cool," Trump said, before mentioning young golfer Lydia Ko.


"On the Golf Channel, they said to her, 'When you bring the club up, how do you bring it down? What's your thought?' She said, 'I don't know. I don't really have a thought.' It's just something special."

Ko's popularity continues to surge in America where she recently added a new award to her trophy cabinet after winning Best Female Golfer at the ESPY Awards.

The 19-year-old won the category for the second year in a row at the ceremony in Los Angeles on Thursday (NZ time).

The ESPYs are an American awards show run by television network ESPN, with the winners decided by public vote.

Read the full interview here.