Each week the NZ Herald and Newstalk ZB's Cooking The Books podcast tackles a different money problem. Today, it's whether deliberately shrinking our economy could fix some of society's problems. Hosted by Frances Cook.

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The idea that growth is good is a core belief in our financial system.

A growing economy means jobs, profits, and food on the table.