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Election 2023: Chris Hipkins hosts online ‘town hall’, new poll shows National, Act need NZ First to govern

Michael  Neilson
By Michael Neilson
Senior political reporter, NZ Herald·NZ Herald·
4 Oct, 2023 04:39 AM5 mins to read

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Focus Live: PM Chris Hipkins speaks to the media

Chris Hipkins claims NZ First was a disruptive influence while in government, saying when they were in Cabinet together they would often change their minds.

The prime minister made the claims tonight during an online “town hall” meeting while isolating with Covid-19.

”One of the great frustrations was the amount of time and energy that got put into progressing a whole lot of issues only for New Zealand First to change their mind at the last minute, and often for no particular apparent reason,” Hipkins said.

”I don’t think New Zealand First is a force for stability in government.

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”Winston Peters has built his entire political career on opposing things I don’t think he actually knows how to build things.”

Hipkins also offered his thoughts on some regrets and mistakes.

He acknowledged the failure of Kiwibuild, an election promise during 2017 to build 100,000 houses, saying “we’ll own that”.

He said a major regret was the division throughout the Covid-19 response, largely stemming from vaccination policies.

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He was “really proud” of the response but recognised that “it was through the vaccination campaign that we started to see some division through our Covid response”.

”It’s caused the splintering of an otherwise rock-solid response. I do reget that.

”I don’t regret the fact that we had high numbers of New Zealanders being vaccinated, because it’s one of the reasons we’ve had one of the lowest mortality rates… but I do regret the division that vaccination has caused.”

Peters once again in ‘kingmaker’ position

Meanwhile, in the latest 1News Verian poll, Peters is predicted to once again be in the “kingmaker” position.

Wednesday evening’s poll had National steady on 36 per cent support from a week ago and Act down two to 10 per cent.

While Labour are stagnating at 26 per cent support, the bigger blow might be National leader Christopher Luxon overtaking Hipkins for the first time in the poll’s preferred prime minister stakes - a rare occurrence of an incumbent prime minister.

The numbers would give National and Act 46 and 13 seats respectively - together 59 seats and just below the 61 needed to form a majority in the 120-seat Parliament.

This means Luxon’s “last resort” appears increasingly likely, with him needing to call up NZ First’s Winston Peters and the support of the eight seats projected under the poll.

NZ First was steady on 6 per cent.

The poll had National steady on 36 per cent and Labour steady on 26 per cent. The Greens also steady on 13 per cent, Te Pāti Māori steady on 2 per cent and The Opportunities Party up 1 point to 2 per cent.

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According to the poll, the left bloc would see Labour on 33 seats, the Greens 17 and and Te Pāti Māori 3. Together this added up to just 53 seats, and well below the threshold.

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The poll was taken between September 30 and October 4, and included 1000 respondents.

Read more about how polls are conducted here.

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The last poll, revealed a week ago, also showed National and Act needed the support of NZ First to form a government - another of multiple recent polls having the party above the 5 per cent threshold to enter Parliament.

Leader Winston Peters has been holding packed public meetings across the country and support for a return to Parliament looks increasingly likely.

Peters has refused to work with Labour again, meaning his only option of getting into Government is with National.

Luxon long put off even acknowledging Peters was on the radar, but after successive polls had NZ First over the threshold, he confirmed National would work with NZ First alongside Act - if it needed their support.

Despite this, Luxon has been using nearly every media opportunity to state working NZ First was his “last resort” to keep Labour out of government.

The preferred prime minister stakes had Luxon ahead of Hipkins for the first time out of all 1News polls. Luxon was up 3 points to 26 per cent while Hipkins was up 2 points to 25 per cent.

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Speaking to the results, Luxon told 1News it was clear New Zealand wanted a change.

Act had been trending down in recent polls, and the seat share with National had slipped from a majority of 62 on September 13 to 59. The past two polls had the two parties unable to form a majority alone.

Peters told 1News he “hated” the phrase “kingmaker” but would take the opportunity if granted to ensure there was a stable, three-year government. Since 1996, Peters has helped form three governments.

But the key difference this time is he has already spelled out he doesn’t want to work with Labour, leaving his only option as National or the cross benches.

The poll comes just 10 days out from the election on October 14 and days after advance voting opened. Voter turnout this election has alsready been much slower than the last election, a fact Hipkins tried to take comfort in explaining the poll result.

But while Hipkins did his best to give an upbeat response in his penultimate day of Covid-19 isolation, it’s likely he and his colleagues will have been hoping for at least a small bump in support after his form in the Newshub leaders’ debate last week alongside consistent attacks on National’s tax and welfare plans.

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