US President Donald Trump and Democrat Joe Biden continued their debate-stage clash from afar today as they competed for working-class voters in the Midwest.
Elected officials in both parties — and the debate commission, too — sought to deal with the most chaotic presidential face-off in memory.
Yesterday's debate raised fresh questions about Trump's continued reluctance to condemn white supremacy, his efforts to undermine the legitimacy of the election and his unwillingness to respect debate ground rules his campaign had agreed to. Some Democrats called on Biden to skip the next two debates.
Biden's campaign confirmed he would participate in the subsequent meetings as did Trump's. But the Commission on Presidential Debates promised "additional structure ... to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues."
This week's Economist/YouGov poll:
— G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) September 30, 2020
Biden: 50%
Trump: 42
Other 2
Undecided 6
96% of voters say their minds are made up v 4% who say there's a chance they might switch
Fielded 9/27 - 9/30. Numbers are among 1350 likely voters.
Less than 12 hours after the wild debate concluded, Biden called Trump's behaviour in the prime-time confrontation a "a national embarrassment."
The Democratic challenger launched his most aggressive day on the campaign trail all year, with eight stops planned for a train tour that began mid-morning in Cleveland and was to end 10 hours later in western Pennsylvania. Trump was to address voters and donors in Minnesota late in the day.
In his first appearance, Biden balanced criticism of Trump with a call for national unity.
"He lies to you," Biden told supporters under a sunny sky with a cool breeze alongside the Cleveland train station.
"I'll always tell you the truth," the former Vice-President said. "I'll always care about you whether you vote for me or not. If elected, I'm not going to be a Democratic president, I'm going to be an American president."
While some Republicans feared that Trump's debate performance was too aggressive, he opened his day by attacking his opponent and debate moderator Chris Wallace on social media.
"Chris had a tough night," Trump tweeted. "Two on one was not surprising, but fun."
Of Biden, the president added, "He will destroy our Country!"
The first of three scheduled debates between Trump and Biden deteriorated into bitter taunts and chaos the night before as the Republican president repeatedly interrupted his Democratic rival with angry — and personal — jabs that overshadowed any substantive discussion of the crises threatening the nation.
Trump and Biden frequently talked over each other with Trump interrupting, nearly shouting, so often that Biden eventually snapped at him, "Will you shut up, man?"
Joe Biden and running mate Kamala Harris made it clear on debate night that they don't want to talk about changes to the Supreme Court, including expanding the current nine-justice bench https://t.co/N1xqmLTpTE pic.twitter.com/P3hpnuL1QO
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 30, 2020
Trump repeatedly cast doubt on the integrity of the election and refused to say whether he would accept the results, calling on his supporters to scrutinise voting procedures at the polls — something that critics warned could easily cross into voter intimidation.
Trump also refused to condemn white supremacists who have supported him, telling one such group known as Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by."
On Capitol Hill, some Republicans struggled to defend Trump's performance.
"Wasn't the Lincoln-Douglas debate was it?" Utah Senator Mitt Romney quipped. The former Republican presidential nominee said Trump "of course" should have condemned white supremacists.
Maybe a little enthusiastic but @QuinnipiacPoll puts both Biden & Harrison @ 46% w/college+ whites in SC (!). Follows polls this week that had Biden at 46% w/col whites in GA & 48% in TX. He hit 45% w/them in GA in a poll last week. These are numbers Ds have not reached in South.
— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) September 30, 2020
"I think he misspoke," said South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, the only black Republican senator. "I think he should correct it. If he doesn't correct it, I guess he didn't misspeak."
Trump has not said he misspoke.
The President's brash posture may have appealed to his most passionate supporters, but it was unclear whether the embattled incumbent helped expand his coalition or won over any persuadable voters, particularly white, educated women and independents who have been turned off in part by the same tone and tenor the president displayed on the debate stage.
With just five weeks until election day and voting already underway in several key states, Biden holds a lead in national polls and in many battlegrounds.
Polling has been remarkably stable for months, despite the historic crises that have battered the country this year, including the pandemic that has killed more than 200,000 Americans and a reckoning over race and police.
Our post-debate poll with Ipsos is out, and it finds voters thought Biden did well and Trump did poorly. Also hints of a *bit* of topline movement toward Biden, though most voters stuck with their initial preferences.https://t.co/ZqIQTrcXWu
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 30, 2020
While Biden distanced himself from some of the priorities of his party's left wing — and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders — yesterday, there was no sign that he had turned off his party's grassroots activists.
Digital director Rob Flaherty said Biden raised US$3.8 million between 3pm and 4pm NZT yesterday - the hour after the debate started - his best 60 minutes of online fundraising.
The pro-Democratic fundraising group ActBlue's donation ticker showed a surge of US$12m raised for Democratic candidates starting at around 4.30pm.
"I don't agree with everything Biden is saying, but this is in fact the most important election in the history of the US," Sanders said today on ABC. "It is terribly important that we defeat Trump, that we elect Biden and that we have the largest voter turnout in the history of the country."
As it stands, more than 200,000 Americans have died of COVID-19. Another 13 million are unemployed. Here's where Joe Biden and Pres. Donald Trump stand on issues of health care and COVID-19. https://t.co/MqHgk6aBy5 pic.twitter.com/dUPyNX1BHM
— ABC News (@ABC) September 30, 2020
Increasingly, the candidates have trained their attention on working-class voters in the Midwest, a group that helped give Trump his victory four years ago and will again play a critical role this fall.
Biden opened his day by delivering a speech alongside the rails of Cleveland's train station. The former Vice-President's campaign stencilled a map of the train journey he's making with wife, Jill, on a board behind the lectern where he spoke.
Aboard the six-carriage train: only the Bidens, their campaign staff and a handful of journalists. The train features a Biden-Harris logo and a sign urging supporters to text "Train" to the campaign to show their support.
The stain of this embarrassing and shameful night — the first US presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden — will be visible for many years to come, wrote John Harris, our columnist and Politico's founding editor.https://t.co/hKKBMNrzL3
— POLITICOEurope (@POLITICOEurope) September 30, 2020
Biden spent decades commuting between his home in Delaware and Washington while serving in the Senate. He announced his 1988 campaign for president, the first of his three runs, at the station in Wilmington, Delaware, posing with his family off the back of the train.
Trump was scheduled to attend an afternoon fundraiser in Shorewood, Minnesota, a suburb to the west of Minneapolis, before appearing at an evening campaign rally in Duluth on the shores of Lake Superior.
While Trump carried Ohio and Pennsylvania four years ago, he narrowly lost Minnesota, one of the few states he hopes to flip from blue to red in November.
In other words, they're saying that a Biden win would ... make America great again? https://t.co/035ebD4Fzl
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) September 30, 2020
The President's path to success likely depends on finding more votes in rural, conservative areas and limiting his losses in the state's urban and suburban areas.
It's a strategy Trump's campaign is trying to execute in other states and it depends on a robust field operation with the money and time to track down infrequent or first-time voters.
That could be a tall order since Minnesota already has one of the nation's highest voter turnout rates.
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