An uncomfortable McCaw tried to keep his voice down as his uncle got more animated.
He asked McCaw to sign off the list with Great All Black as his ultimate goal but the teenager demurred and wrote G.A.B, hurriedly stuck the note in his pocket and pinned it, out of sight, deep inside a cupboard in his bedroom.
Since that 2001 test debut, McCaw delivered on his G.A.B ambition.
We'd all seen and marvelled at those exploits, we'd walked with McCaw through a decade of test rugby in 2011 when he reached that 100 test milestone yet didn't know much more about him than he was prepared to share.
We got more of an insight in his book where author Greg McGee wrote in the foreword that McCaw was the ultimate professional still driven by his passion for the sport.
"He's driven by an elemental fierce joy for the conflict, yet has sought out an understanding of the psychological underpinnings of behaviour and motivation," McGee said.