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All Blacks: All Blacks will not reign supreme, says Dwyer

By Peter Bills
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4 Jul, 2008 05:00 PM7 mins to read

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KEY POINTS:

Bob Dwyer is one of the most experienced coaches in world rugby.

A former World Cup winner with the Wallabies, he has had long experience with clubs and provinces in many countries of the world _ such as Randwick and the Waratahs in Australia, Leicester Tigers and Bristol in England and Racing Club de France in Paris.

On the eve of the Tri-Nations, he predicts a good series with an excellent quality of play.

"The pace of the game, the ferocity and intensity of the impacts will be enormous. That is what New Zealand showed in the last game and there will be plenty more of that to come."

Dwyer on New Zealand

"In the second test against England last week, I thought the All Blacks played as well as any team I have seen play for a long, long time. I don't praise New Zealand very often and have to bite my tongue to do it even now. But I thought they were outstanding, and that can't bode particularly well for the Springboks as they head to New Zealand.

"The All Blacks looked relentless, voracious and showed a non-stop intensity. When you get one of those qualities it is difficult to defend against; when you get two, it's as tough as hell. When you get all three qualities in the opposition you just can't continue to defend against it. The All Blacks attacked out wide, down the middle, everywhere. I think New Zealand will be successful, but they won't reign supreme. They are very canny so they keep replenishing the stocks from their neighbours."

On Graham Henry

"Should New Zealand have kept Robbie Deans and ditched Graham Henry after the World Cup last year? I thought the smart move would definitely have been to have got rid of Henry. I think about 90 per cent of New Zealanders agree with me. I have seen Graham Henry teams fail before _ Wales, the 2001 British and Irish Lions, the All Blacks. It just seems to me there is a consistency there. Why ? I don't know.

"But I don't understand how you can be a successful coach if you never smile. You have got to have intensity and your serious times, but you need fun times, too.

"But he has got a great coaching team there: Steve Hansen and Wayne Smith have got it all together, that's for sure.

"How influential is Graham? As a former NFL coach said, you can't win without good players but you can still lose with them, and that's where a good coach comes in.

"Maybe that applies here. If you have good players you will win a fair few games but can you put it together to win most of the important games as well ?

"Perhaps he is a victim of the pressure of the job but you have to respond to the pressure in a successful way. It's hardly a surprise that coaching at that level comes with a fair degree of pressure.

"So they won't fall in a hole because Robbie Deans has gone, but one thing is for sure _ they will definitely regret losing him."

Dwyer on South Africa

"They have made a very good start to the season in conditions where they thought they may fail. And you have to say, the talent they have is stunning. Look at the athleticism of the big guys in their pack, players like Pierre Spies, Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Schalk Burger, Juan Smith. That is freakish.

"Burger is potentially remarkable, yet the number of errors he makes is absurd. You would think he would correct those things. His aim should not be to maim people; getting some accuracy into his play should be his prime consideration.

"But the fact remains, there is a team in the world that boasts enormous size, enormous strength, enormous pace, athleticism, determination and courage. Put that lot together and you have a pretty fearsome combination. And which country is it that has all these qualities ? South Africa.

"Unfortunately, the zeal to use those natural attributes has often meant they have ignored a lot of other things. The inaccuracies of their play have been obvious, and as opponents we say `Thank God'.

"We've seen from the Super 14 the talent available in South Africa. But having said that, I think they will struggle in New Zealand this year because they will take a little while to get things together. "

On Peter de Villiers

"I don't know a great deal about Peter and I guess like a lot of people in world rugby, I will be most interested to see how he gets on in the job this season. But I definitely buy into his philosophy that there is so much more to come from this South African side.

"The fact is, a thoroughly ordinary England team went close to winning that World Cup final last year, and that was absurd. It doesn't say a massive amount for South Africa.

"To be a successful coach means being a very good selector too. To be honest, we would have thought that some of the selections in his first squad were less than appropriate, but they have their social agenda as well as their rugby agenda, and I think that is right.

"The only way to do that is by imposing certain selections, but De Villiers has shown they can play good rugby under him.

"But given the quality available to him, you'd have to say it would be a surprise if South Africa strayed too far away from being highly competitive and tough to beat."

On Australia

"We have some outstanding young players emerging coincidentally at the same time as we have appointed an outstanding coach. It won't take forever for him to start amalgamating that talent into the side _ maybe by the end of the November-December tour to the Northern Hemisphere. By then, players will have started to filter into the team and they will begin to show the fruits of Deans' coaching.

"Guys like Luke Burgess, Polota-Nau (who can be one of the all-time greats) and the NSW backs Cross and Tahu can all have a huge impact. I think, ironically, the captain [Stirling Mortlock] will be under pressure to hold his place. We have some great players coming through and a couple of them, one a 17-year-old and another who is 18, have already played Super 14.

"But this year's Tri-Nations will be too soon for them. As Robbie Deans has said, they'll be holding each other's hands for the first 12 months. But as for 2011 and the World Cup, Australia will definitely be in the reckoning. "

On Robbie Deans

"If you want to know what a coach is like in terms of quality, have a look at the way his teams play. Robbie Deans' teams are accurate in their precision; they have accurate pass and running skills, accurate lines of running and support, plus good attention to detail in defence and attack. They also have a good knowledge of counter-attack principles. There is also great ferocity in their play; it's not all froth and bubble.

In the long term, he'll be very successful, I'm sure."

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