While they both received the accolades from their colleagues, standing ovations as they entered their meeting rooms, they were seen as winners. Whether that's the case literally only time will tell, and that time will be determined solely by Peters, with him not picking up the phone from either of them since the election and not likely to for some days yet.
He did pick up the phone though from yours truly to have a go at Fonterra boss Theo Spierings' eye-watering $8.3 million salary over the past year, which amounts to just on $160,000 a week. Dairy farmers were much better off before Spierings took over the trading giant, Peters argues, and since then China's taken over the infant formula business and farmers have taken a $300 million bath from the company's investment arm in China.
So our current most powerful politician's suggesting a raft of laws to reign in what he calls the fat cat payouts, banning golden hellos, bonuses being paid to lure executives, and limiting golden parachutes to those bosses quitting with bulging pockets. And he wants to see a change to the Companies Act, giving shareholders a say for pay, when it comes to directors' fees and chief executive packages.
Sounds a bit Obamaesque, who in the early days of his Presidency flogged the fat cats. But then he had a more powerful reason than we've got, enormous payouts to departing Wall Street bosses whose companies were on life support before the Government stepped in. Obama cut the compo to half a million at most. In reality it was a hit like closing the stable door after the prize stallion had bolted.
But it's years since the Government here has subsidised farmers in this country and if they've got a problem with Fonterra fat cats, surely let them fight their own battles.