Boudicca Fox-Leonard talks with presenter Kevin McCloud on the 20th anniversary of Grand Designs.

Kevin McCloud is delivering one of his typically measured meditations on architecture and design. The kind viewers bask in every time they tune into Grand Designs - the baritone drawl, the wry observations. The problem is that between the zoosh of trains 5m to the side of us and the thrum of building work behind us, I can barely hear him. We are discussing the 20th anniversary of Grand Designs and we've met at Stock Orchard St in north London, an experimental building project on a

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