NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / Business / Personal Finance / KiwiSaver

Are you paying too much KiwiSaver tax? - Diana Clement

Diana Clement
By Diana Clement
Your Money and careers writer for the NZ Herald·NZ Herald·
23 Mar, 2024 04:00 PM4 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

Is your KiwiSaver leaking tax? It might be time to have a look under the bonnet and see what's going on. Photo / 123RF

Is your KiwiSaver leaking tax? It might be time to have a look under the bonnet and see what's going on. Photo / 123RF

Diana Clement
Opinion by Diana Clement
Diana Clement is a freelance journalist who has written a column for the Herald since 2004. Before that, she was personal finance editor for the Sunday Business (now The Business) newspaper in London.
Learn more

OPINION

Is your KiwiSaver leaking tax? Kiwi investors have been trained to worry endlessly about how much they’re paying in KiwiSaver fees.

However, one Kiwisaver provider argues that tax is another fee and that most people are paying too much, impacting their returns.

Savers pay tax at their own personal Prescribed Investor Rate [PIR] on their KiwiSaver. However many KiwiSaver providers have third-party international investments under the bonnet, which pay another layer of tax that few investors know about or see, says Kernel KiwiSaver’s founder Dean Anderson.

How it works is KiwiSaver providers often invest some of their savers’ money in third party funds to ensure they have a wide range of investments in different markets. However, if those funds are domiciled [based] offshore, they’re paying tax to overseas governments that can’t be clawed back as credits and is lost.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

“It’s quite simple. As long as the local [KiwiSaver or other] fund here owns Nestle in Europe [for example], that’s fine,” says Anderson. “But if the local [KiwiSaver or other managed] fund owns a fund in Australia that then owns Nestle It has an extra step and you can’t get the tax back. That’s where the leakage comes in.”

In that scenario, KiwiSaver providers end up paying tax here on income that has already been taxed overseas. That double taxation can drain 0.25 per cent to 0.9 per cent of returns, says Anderson. “So quite a large impact on returns. All of those little fractions add up.” The numbers aren’t that different from some KiwiSaver management fees.

A cynic would say that Kernel, which owns the underlying investments in its funds, has a barrow to push. But for the record I approached Anderson on the subject, not vice versa. A line about “tax leakage” in a Kernel newsletter had caught my eye. The idea of additional layers of tax and fees in KiwiSaver sub funds has always bothered me and the word “leakage” was a pithy way to put it.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Tax is an increasingly big question for investors thanks to rising personal and trust tax rates, says Anderson. It’s not just KiwiSaver.

Thanks to the top personal tax rate being raised to 39 per cent in 2022, clients were looking to move some of their other investments to Pie funds. The top tax rate for a Pie fund such as KiwiSaver is 28 per cent, which was significantly less than 39 per cent for tap rate taxpayers on non-Pie investments.

Clients are becoming more interested in the total cost of investing, says Anderson. Tax is part of the “everything else” over and above management fees that investors should think about, he says. “Treat it in the same way [you do] management fees. Tax is just another fee you should also look at and ultimately try to minimise.”

I spoke with Simplicity KiwiSaver founder Sam Stubbs. In April last year the KiwiSaver provider switched from holding Vanguard funds for overseas exposure to remove the tax leakage.

“It ends up making our members, somewhere in the range of 30 to 70 basis points extra a year in terms of returns,” says Stubbs. The move was a reluctant one because Vanguard wouldn’t provide Simplicity with locally domiciled funds to invest in. “Unfortunately it’s the curse of the small market. New Zealand is too small a market for them. So we made our own [international] funds and outsourced them to DWS to manage.”

Just as with fees, layers of extra tax don’t always translate into a poor return. Sometimes high-fee funds have better returns than low-fee funds. Likewise a KiwiSaver fund paying higher tax under the bonnet, isn’t necessarily the one with the poorest return. It’s all part of the mix, however, says Katrina Scorrar, senior tax associate at Johnston Associates.

Neither Kernel, nor Simplicity had the highest annual return over five years in their respective KiwiSaver categories when I compared returns from FundSource and Morningstar.

Having the highest return, lowest fees or tax isn’t necessarily the most important factor for everyone. Personally I try to choose funds that are more likely to be ethical, and less likely to greenwash. Readers can compare KiwiSaver funds on grounds such as these at MindfulMoney.net.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Scorrar says the tax leakage issue is one that people need to bear in mind as they do fees or returns. “It’s another piece to the puzzle of how much you’re actually going to get back from your investment. Because of all the other factors that you have involved, it is hard to isolate tax by itself.”

Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

Latest from KiwiSaver

Premium
Opinion

Mary Holm: Should I pay off my student loan or invest in an index fund?

13 Jun 05:00 PM
Premium
KiwiSaver

'Opening a can of worms': Govt considers allowing KiwiSaver withdrawals for farms

10 Jun 05:00 PM
Premium
Business|personal finance

Tens of thousands more Kiwis seeking financial help from KiwiSaver

09 Jun 05:00 PM

Kaibosh gets a clean-energy boost in the fight against food waste

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from KiwiSaver

Premium
Mary Holm: Should I pay off my student loan or invest in an index fund?

Mary Holm: Should I pay off my student loan or invest in an index fund?

13 Jun 05:00 PM

OPINION: You need to consider interest, taxes and fees.

Premium
'Opening a can of worms': Govt considers allowing KiwiSaver withdrawals for farms

'Opening a can of worms': Govt considers allowing KiwiSaver withdrawals for farms

10 Jun 05:00 PM
Premium
Tens of thousands more Kiwis seeking financial help from KiwiSaver

Tens of thousands more Kiwis seeking financial help from KiwiSaver

09 Jun 05:00 PM
Premium
Fran O’Sullivan: It’s time NZ had a serious debate about making KiwiSaver compulsory

Fran O’Sullivan: It’s time NZ had a serious debate about making KiwiSaver compulsory

30 May 09:00 PM
Engage and explore one of the most remote places on Earth in comfort and style
sponsored

Engage and explore one of the most remote places on Earth in comfort and style

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP