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US Attorney-General testifies: Six takeaways from Barr's tense Senate hearing

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1 May, 2019 10:41 PM8 mins to read

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Attorney-General William Barr testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Photo / AP

Attorney-General William Barr testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Photo / AP

US Attorney General William Barr ventured to Capitol Hill an embattled man.

About 15 hours before his testimony, the Washington Post reported that Special Counsel Robert Mueller had sent Barr a letter saying Barr's summary of his report on the Russia investigation "did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this office's work and conclusion".

Mueller asked Barr to release a fuller summary he provided; Barr did not do so.

It's hardly the first time that Barr has run into controversy in recent weeks. And that made his testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee today a tense affair.

Below are highlights and lessons from the hearing.

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1) Barr is unrepentant - and still presenting things favourable to Trump

If you thought Barr might bend to criticism that he had been too favourable to President Donald Trump and change his approach, you'd be wrong. And one exchange encapsulated it.

The committee's top Democrat, Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, began by questioning Barr about one of the key events in the obstruction portion of the Special Counsel's probe: Trump trying to get then-White House counsel Donald McGahn to dispute media reports that Trump had tried to persuade McGahn to fire Mueller.

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Barr suggested that the initial New York Times report on the event had gone further than the evidence by saying Trump explicitly "directed" McGahn to have Mueller fired. But the Mueller report concludes that Trump did do that: "Substantial evidence . . . supports the conclusion that the President went further and in fact directed McGahn to call Rosenstein to have the Special Counsel removed."

Barr also suggested that it was possible Trump's actions weren't obstructive, because "he was primarily concerned about press reports" - not about affecting the investigation.

Again, the Mueller report appears pretty clear on this point. It says Trump's continued efforts to change McGahn's account long after the article published "indicates the President was not focused solely on a press strategy but instead likely contemplated the ongoing investigation and any proceedings arising from it."

Here is the complete exchange, via CSPAN, between Kamala Harris and Bill Barr — including the part where Barr couldn't say whether Trump or anyone in the White House has ever suggested that he open an investigation into anyone. It's worth a watch. pic.twitter.com/wJOdSFR7JR

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 1, 2019

Throughout his testimony, Barr repeated many of the same arguments and comments that put him in focus in the first place, and he again focused on the idea that the Russia investigation might have been improperly launched - as Trump has argued. Asked by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, R, whether he shared "my concerns about the counterintelligence probe and how it was started," Barr responded, "Yes."

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Barr also said he shared Graham's concerns about the FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) process and stood by his controversial past use of the word "spying" to describe how former Trump campaign aide Carter Page was monitored. "I don't think the word 'spying' has any pejorative connotation at all," Barr said. "I'm not going to back off the word 'spying.' "

(The first definition of the verb "spy" in an online Merriam-Webster's dictionary is "to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes.")

2) 'I didn't exonerate' Trump

Despite Barr's posture generally favouring Trump when it came to legal questions, there were a couple of moments in which he disputed key Trump talking points.

One of them came when Barr made clear that he didn't view his decision not to accuse Trump of obstruction of justice as the "complete and total exoneration" that Trump claims.

"I didn't exonerate," Barr said. "I said that we didn't believe that there was sufficient evidence to establish an obstruction offence."

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That's a key distinction, because it allows for the possibility that Trump did obstruct justice - but that as a prosecutor he wouldn't have recommended charging the crime, based on the evidence.

AG Barr will not testify before the House Judiciary Cmte. on Thursday, committee aide says. https://t.co/aCjHzd9hyJ

— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 2, 2019

3) His allegedly misleading previous testimony

In addition to rebuking Barr, Mueller's letter called into question his past testimony. Barr testified before the House last month - after receiving the letter - and suggested he wasn't familiar with how the Mueller team perceived his actions.

When asked whether he knew what was behind reports that members of the Mueller team were unhappy with his summary of the special prosecutor's report, Barr said, "No, I don't."

Barr explained that he was narrowly answering the question: "I don't know what members he's talking about, and I certainly am not aware of any challenge to the accuracy of the findings. . . . I talked directly to Bob Mueller - not members of his team."

Barr repeatedly returned to how Mueller told him that his letter summarising the report wasn't inaccurate. But that's not really the issue. The issue is whether it cherry-picked from the Mueller report and excluded key details. Mueller implied strongly that Barr had misled and excluded important information. And in his past testimony, Barr suggested that he wasn't familiar with anyone on Mueller's team being upset about his summary letter.

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The dispute between Barr and Mueller has become obvious, and Mueller’s testimony is now essential. https://t.co/eloZSUChUQ

— Slate (@Slate) May 2, 2019

4) A rift with Mueller?

Barr and Mueller are reported to be friends, but a few comments suggested there might be some tension between them. Barr suggested that Mueller could have prevented the confusion in the first place.

"I offered Bob Mueller the opportunity to review that letter before it came out," Barr said, "and he declined."

Barr's intent might have been more to suggest that he did his due diligence in releasing the letter summarising the report - rather than that Mueller did anything wrong. But it sure sounded as if he was saying Mueller could have spoken up sooner.

Barr also suggested later that Mueller's opinions don't really matter because he serves in the Department of Justice and reports to the Attorney-General. He likened Mueller to a US Attorney in the DOJ's pecking order.

"His work concluded when he submitted the report to the Attorney-General. At that point, it was my baby," Barr said. "It was my decision how and when to make it public - not Bob Mueller's."

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Later in the hearing, Barr called Mueller's letter "a bit snitty" and suggested Mueller didn't write it himself. He also said that when he spoke with Mueller after the letter, he told him: "Bob, what's with the letter? Why don't you just pick up the phone and call me if there's an issue?"

Barr, of course, knows why Mueller wrote it. He wanted a record.

The attorney general dismissed a letter from the special counsel as "snitty" in a Senate hearing over the Mueller report. Here are the key moments.https://t.co/KKNsBjYdxn

— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 1, 2019

5) Graham's misleading preamble

Graham has turned into one of Trump's most loyal allies on Capitol Hill. And true to form, he started the hearing on a very pro-Trump foot.

Except that many of his claims were misleading.

Graham said the Mueller report had stated there was "no collusion." In fact, the report ruled more narrowly that there was no "conspiracy" and explicitly said it wasn't evaluating the broader concept of collusion because it isn't a legal term.

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Graham said, "As to obstruction of justice, Mr Mueller left it to Mr Barr to decide." In fact, Mueller didn't ask Barr to make a decision on obstruction (as Barr himself has said), nor did Barr need to make the call. Mueller made clear in his report that he didn't think it was the Justice Department's job to accuse a sitting president of crimes, since a sitting president can't be indicted.

And, finally, Graham suggested Barr's previews of the Mueller report, both in his summary letter and in a news conference just ahead of the report's release, didn't really matter. "Here's the good news," Graham told everyone. "You can read the report." But Barr in many ways pre-spun the report - to the extent that members of Mueller's team and Mueller himself were clearly concerned. And setting the first narrative matters.

Graham hailed Mueller as a public servant, but he did not dwell upon Mueller's concerns about Barr's handling of the matter.

"It was my baby": Barr says that Robert's Mueller report was his as soon as Mueller handed it over to the DOJ in late March. https://t.co/O9aacu5wbq pic.twitter.com/CBp6eWWSXC

— Newsweek (@Newsweek) May 2, 2019

6) Barr is better at this than Senate Democrats

When Barr was being confirmed by the Senate, I wrote about how he seemed to mollify the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee without conceding much of anything. They seemed oddly satisfied with his answers and didn't land many punches when it came to his repeated criticisms of the Mueller probe.

They were certainly tougher on Barr this time. Again Barr seemed to bob and weave his way through their lines of questioning, evading trouble and talking his way out of jams.

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They talked tough, but he largely outmanoeuvered them again. There were a few exceptions, including senators Kamala Harris and Sheldon Whitehouse, but the hearing concluded without their being able to extract much.

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