NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / World

Fury over military ban in Scottish referendum

Daily Mail
11 Sep, 2014 10:18 PM4 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

Members of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, 5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Scotland. Photo / Getty Images

Members of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, 5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Scotland. Photo / Getty Images

Scottish soldiers based in England will not be able to take part in the historic referendum on independence.

Critics condemned the 'shocking' rules which mean thousands of Scots stationed outside their home nation will not have a say on the future of the Union.

Only those who still have an address in Scotland will be able to take part, affecting troops stationed in England, Cyprus and Germany.

More than 4 million Scots are eligible to take part in the referendum next Thursday, with turnout predicted to be as high as 85 per cent.

Election officials are expected to publish details today on the numbers who have registered to vote.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

There was a surge in interest in joining the electoral roll as the deadline approached last week, with queues outside council offices until midnight.

The latest polls put the No campaign narrowly ahead on 53 per cent, to the Yes campaign's 43 per cent.

But pollsters say the result could still be too close to call, meaning every vote will count.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

However, election rules mean serving soldiers, sailors and Air Force personnel who have left Scotland as part of their military posting will not be able to take part.

Cup cakes showing yes, no and undecided are displayed in Cuckoo's Bakery in Edinburgh. Photo / Getty Images

Tens of thousands of Scots living south of the border, and around the world, have complained about the fact they are not given a vote.

But those in the armed forces are only outside Scotland because of they service to their country.

Discover more

World

Heir apparent would be key negotiator if Yes wins

10 Sep 05:00 PM
World

Union Rd's voters keep answers to themselves

11 Sep 05:00 PM
Politics

Mary Holm: Plenty to ponder in Labour's plans

12 Sep 11:57 PM
World

UK money crisis looms

13 Sep 05:00 PM

The rules mean forces personnel can apply for a so-called service vote if they can show they are registered at an address in Scotland.

Former Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown makes the case for Scotland staying in the UK at a Better Together rally in Kilmarnock. Photo / Getty Images

In theory it could a property where they would be living were they not in the forces, or where they last lived before being deployed.

SNP deputy leader Nicola Sturgeon claimed last year that around a third of serving personnel use this rule in UK elections, with the remainder registering to vote where they actually live.

However, because the outcome of the referendum will be permanent, unlike an election which takes place every four or five years, critics say Scots who will retain to Scotland after their military career should get a say.

A Yes supporter disrupts a No campaign event. Photo / Getty Images

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Iain Thomson, a Scot who served in the Royal Tank Regiment, told The Times: 'A Scottish soldier who has served in the British army, unless he has a registered address in Scotland, cannot vote.

'Any Scottish soldier living in England, Cyprus or Germany will not be able to vote, which I find appalling.

'A soldier in Afghanistan whose family are back in Tidworth does not have a say in whether his country is going to be independent or not.'

No campaigners have repeatedly stressed the permanence of the outcome of next weeks vote.

Prime Minister David Cameron yesterday urged voters not to use the referendum to give the 'effing Tories' a kicking.

He insisted he cared more about his country than his party, and stressed the result would last for 100 years.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

The PM said: 'Because it is an election people think it's like a general election. If you are fed up with the effing Tories, you can give them a kick and then maybe we'll think again. This is totally different.

'This is not a decision about the next five years, but the next century.'

Better Together leader Alistair Darling also issued a grave warning to Scots about independence.

'Remember this: this vote next week is one that, if we decide to leave, there is no going back,' he said in Glasgow.

'This isn't a protest vote, this isn't a by-election where we're kicking the Government in the teeth. This is a decision that will effect not just our generation, but generations to come.'

Daily Mail.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Save

    Share this article

Latest from World

Premium
World

'Speculative shares': Dinosaur fossil auction raises market concerns

17 Jun 08:00 PM
Premium
Opinion

Opinion: Trump's rise and return centred on power and retribution

17 Jun 07:00 PM
Premium
World

New video reveals how predators interact with bats, increasing virus risk

17 Jun 07:00 PM

Jono and Ben brew up a tea-fuelled adventure in Sri Lanka

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from World

Premium
'Speculative shares': Dinosaur fossil auction raises market concerns

'Speculative shares': Dinosaur fossil auction raises market concerns

17 Jun 08:00 PM

Palaeontologists worry such auctions distort the fossil market, raising prices.

Premium
Opinion: Trump's rise and return centred on power and retribution

Opinion: Trump's rise and return centred on power and retribution

17 Jun 07:00 PM
Premium
New video reveals how predators interact with bats, increasing virus risk

New video reveals how predators interact with bats, increasing virus risk

17 Jun 07:00 PM
G7 summit: Canada promises billions in aid to Ukraine as US shifts focus to Middle East

G7 summit: Canada promises billions in aid to Ukraine as US shifts focus to Middle East

17 Jun 06:50 PM
Help for those helping hardest-hit
sponsored

Help for those helping hardest-hit

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP