NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / World

Covid 19 coronavirus: Donald Trump's virus danger period is still ahead of him

By Sam Clench
news.com.au·
6 Oct, 2020 07:09 AM8 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

President Donald Trump gives thumbs up as he stands on the Blue Room Balcony upon returning to the White House. Photo / AP

President Donald Trump gives thumbs up as he stands on the Blue Room Balcony upon returning to the White House. Photo / AP

ANALYSIS

Four days.

That is how long it has been since Donald Trump tested positive for the coronavirus and started to suffer from symptoms, according to the timeline the White House and his doctors have provided.

Typically, the most dangerous period for a coronavirus patient is 7-10 days after the onset of symptoms. That is when more severe cases can suddenly take a turn for the worse.

I'm not pulling that figure out of my backside. The 7-10 day window has been consistently mentioned by medical experts, including the President's own physician, Dr Sean Conley.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

"In particular, days 7-10 are the most critical in determining the likely course of this illness," Conley said the first time he briefed the media on Trump's condition, on Saturday.

"He's doing so well, but with a known course of the illness, days 7-10 we get really concerned about the inflammatory phase."

Today, even as he endorsed Trump's decision to leave Walter Reed Medical Centre and return to the White House, Conley still acknowledged that danger period.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Dr Sean Conley, physician to US President Donald Trump, talks with reporters at Walter Reed National Military Medical Centre. Photo / AP
Dr Sean Conley, physician to US President Donald Trump, talks with reporters at Walter Reed National Military Medical Centre. Photo / AP

"You said that 7-10 days was a window that you'd be concerned about. I don't think we're there yet," a reporter reminded him.

"Do you have concerns about potential worsening or reversal? What are your plans for addressing that, if it were to happen?"

"You're absolutely right," said Conley.

"That's why we all remain cautiously optimistic and on guard, because we're in a bit of uncharted territory when it comes to a patient that received the therapies the President has so early in the course.

Discover more

World

When the patient is your commander in chief, the answer is usually 'yes, sir'

06 Oct 06:00 AM
World

Trump's campaign saw an opportunity. He undermined it

06 Oct 03:30 AM
World

Coronavirus flourishes where Trump spends much of his time: Indoors

06 Oct 01:41 AM
World

Infected senator vows 'moon suit' to vote Trump's court pick

06 Oct 12:55 AM

"We're looking to this weekend. If we can get through to Monday with him remaining the same or improving, then we will take that final, deep sigh of relief.

"He may not be entirely out of the woods yet."

Maybe the President will be fine. Maybe last Friday morning, when his blood oxygen levels dropped and he was moved to hospital, will end up being the most perilous moment he faces from the infection.

The point here is that we simply don't know yet. And in the estimation of Trump's own doctor, we will not know until Monday.

Why, then, is Donald Trump acting as though he has already beaten the virus?

In his upbeat video message to Americans today, filmed on the White House's Truman Balcony, Trump said he was "better" now, mused that he might be "immune", and told his constituents not to let fear of the virus "dominate" their lives.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
President Donald Trump waves from the Blue Room Balcony upon returning to the White House. Photo / AP
President Donald Trump waves from the Blue Room Balcony upon returning to the White House. Photo / AP

"Don't let it dominate you. Don't be afraid of it. You're going to beat it. We have the best medical equipment, we have the best medicines, all developed recently. And you're going to beat it," the President said.

"I went, I didn't feel so good. And two days ago – I could have left two days ago. Two days ago I felt great, like, better than I've felt in a long time. As I said just recently, better than 20 years ago.

"Don't let it dominate. Don't let it take over your lives. Don't let that happen. We have the greatest country in the world. We're going back, we're going back to work. We're going to be out front.

"As your leader, I had to do that. I knew there's danger to it, but I had to do it. I stood out front, I led. Nobody that's a leader would not do what I did. And I know there's a risk, there's a danger, but that's okay.

"But now I'm better, and maybe I'm immune. But don't let it dominate your lives. Get out there, be careful. We have the best medicines in the world.

"The vaccines are coming momentarily. Thank you very much."

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

The US President also posted a bombastic, campaign-style video featuring triumphant images of his brief trip from Walter Reed to the White House. And he promised to be back on the campaign trail "soon".

pic.twitter.com/OxmRcZ5nUZ

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 5, 2020

pic.twitter.com/Sn4yTTg8eB

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 5, 2020

I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 5, 2020

Will be back on the Campaign Trail soon!!! The Fake News only shows the Fake Polls.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 5, 2020

The optimistic tone was echoed by Trump's supporters.

I was particularly struck by Republican Senator Kelly Loeffler, for example, who posted a photoshopped version of Trump's famous WrestleMania appearance, showing him quite literally beating the virus.

"Covid stood NO chance against Donald Trump!" Loeffler said.

COVID stood NO chance against @realDonaldTrump! pic.twitter.com/GtNPOHkDqF

— Kelly Loeffler (@KLoeffler) October 5, 2020

Stood? Past tense?

We are four days into an infection that has been known to recede in some patients, only to quickly turn severe a few days later. Trump is still sick, and his fight against the virus is ongoing.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

"It's now well established that a patient's wellbeing can suddenly change around 7-10 days after symptoms first develop, even when they feel on the mend in the meantime," Professor Daniel Davis, an immunology expert from the University of Manchester, told Newsweek today.

University of East Anglia Professor Paul Hunter told the magazine "you cannot give the all-clear for at least a couple of weeks".

"The times we are most concerned about with a Covid patient are days 7-10. Why is he being discharged now when the most concerning time is yet to come?" Dr Leana Wen, a visiting professor at George Washington University, wondered on PBS.

"What happens is, a person can actually get much more stable for a stretch, and then they have this disregulation of their immune system. Your immune system goes into overdrive," Dr Eric Topol, a cardiologist, told CNN.

"(It's) especially more common in people of an advanced age. So he's not out of the woods by any means."

Marine One with president Donald Trump aboard lifts off from Walter Reed National Military Medical Centre as supporters cheers. Photo / AP
Marine One with president Donald Trump aboard lifts off from Walter Reed National Military Medical Centre as supporters cheers. Photo / AP

There is no shortage of quotes like this from experts who worry the President might be claiming victory over the virus prematurely.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Nor is there any shortage of patients in this pandemic who wrongly thought they were past the worst of the infection.

In the United States, the most prominent example is the businessman and one-time Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain, who tragically died in July.

Cain tested positive for the virus on July 2. Throughout the month, the team running his social media accounts provided increasingly positive updates on his condition.

"The progress is slow but his breathing is getting stronger every day. Make no mistake, he is improving!" they said on July 10.

On July 15, they said doctors "like the progress he is making".

"He really is getting better, which means it is working," they said on July 27.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

On July 30, he was dead.

Across the Atlantic Ocean, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson appeared to be suffering from a relatively mild case of the virus for about a week. Then, nine days after testing positive, he suddenly went to hospital.

Johnson's condition deteriorated rapidly and, according to the man himself, the situation became so grim that his doctors started to consider how they would announce his death.

President Donald Trump gives thumbs up as he stands on the Blue Room Balcony upon returning to the White House. Photo / AP
President Donald Trump gives thumbs up as he stands on the Blue Room Balcony upon returning to the White House. Photo / AP

"It was hard to believe that in just a few days, my health had deteriorated to this extent," he told The Sun in May.

"The bad moment came when it was 50/50 whether they were going to have to put a tube down my windpipe.

"They were starting to think about how to handle it, presentationally."

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Obviously, Trump has access to unrivalled healthcare, and after his worrying episode on Friday, his doctors threw the proverbial kitchen sink at him.

He has received supplementary oxygen, zinc, vitamin D, the heartburn drug famotidine, the sleep aid melatonin, aspirin, the antiviral drug remdesivir, a steroid called dexamethasone, and an experimental cocktail of antibodies which is still in the clinical trial phase.

There are still some things his doctors will not reveal, such as whether or not there is any evidence of pneumonia or inflammation in the President's lungs, or when the date of his most recent negative coronavirus test was.

The latter could help us come up with a more accurate estimate of when, exactly, Trump was infected, and therefore where really he is in relation to the 7-10 day danger period. But Conley is not budging. He refuses to share the information.

When he spoke to reporters today, the White House physician sought to reassure Americans that Trump would continue to be well cared for back at the White House.

"He's returning to a facility, the White House medical unit, that is staffed 24/7. Top-notch physicians, nurses, logisticians," he said.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

"Right now there's nothing that is being done upstairs here that we can't safely conduct at home."

So, even if Trump is growing complacent, his doctors are not.

Save

    Share this article

Latest from World

Premium
World

Traditional river travel gets a useful upgrade

24 Jun 07:00 PM
Premium
Opinion

Why the Democrats need their own Trump

24 Jun 07:00 PM
World

Israeli strike on Tehran prison raises alarm over inmate welfare

24 Jun 06:52 PM

Kaibosh gets a clean-energy boost in the fight against food waste

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from World

Premium
Traditional river travel gets a useful upgrade

Traditional river travel gets a useful upgrade

24 Jun 07:00 PM

New York Times: The Achuar say sustainable transportation way to control their future.

Premium
Why the Democrats need their own Trump

Why the Democrats need their own Trump

24 Jun 07:00 PM
Israeli strike on Tehran prison raises alarm over inmate welfare

Israeli strike on Tehran prison raises alarm over inmate welfare

24 Jun 06:52 PM
‘They don't know what the **** they're doing’: Trump lashes Israel, Iran for violating truce
live

‘They don't know what the **** they're doing’: Trump lashes Israel, Iran for violating truce

24 Jun 06:40 PM
Engage and explore one of the most remote places on Earth in comfort and style
sponsored

Engage and explore one of the most remote places on Earth in comfort and style

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP