NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / Sport / Rugby / Super Rugby

Rugby: Would an old-fashioned bollocking fix the Blues?

Gregor Paul
By Gregor Paul
Rugby analyst·NZ Herald·
2 May, 2018 01:31 AM4 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

James Parsons of the Blues talks to his team. Photo / Photosport

James Parsons of the Blues talks to his team. Photo / Photosport

Apparently the worst thing any New Zealand coach can be in professional rugby these days is 'old school'.

It's a near certain career killer for any coach who allows the perception to fester among their players that they may be antiquated, not down with it.

Generation Y players can be unforgiving, unaccepting and resistant to any methods they don't like and they won't take an 'old school' coach seriously.

And to some extent Generation Y players are holding the mostly Generation X coaching fraternity to ransom.

They are a generation which has come through a collaborative education system where it's all positive feedback and feet forward.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

They have only ever known instant gratification in a digital age and the concept of an apprenticeship, of grafting in the background waiting for an opportunity is alien.

Most young players come into Super Rugby expecting they will play sooner rather than later and they won't hang around for long if they don't.

So the worrying thing for coaches, most of whom are Generation X, is that it is not terribly difficult to be branded old school because most of what they know and are naturally inclined towards doing, would instantly be rejected by their players.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Things such as a good old-fashioned bollocking are off the menu. It's not okay either for a coach to make public, critical assessments of the team after they play poorly.

And an emerging youngster can't be told to be patient to keep training the house down and just wait as long as needs be, for their chance to play, because there are senior players ahead of them in the pecking order.

Kara Pryor of the Blues looks on during the side's defeat to the Jaguares. Photosport
Kara Pryor of the Blues looks on during the side's defeat to the Jaguares. Photosport

Given the results New Zealand's teams have enjoyed in Super Rugby, there is plenty to be said for the modern culture however much it may feel like pandering and however much it may feel counter intuitive to coaching teams who endured a different world in their formative years.

But last weekend, there was a contrasting tale of two dressing rooms, where 'old school' triumphed and showed that there is still a place in the game for direct, unflattering tell-it-like-it-is honesty and to hell with anyone's feelings.

Discover more

Super Rugby

Big ban handed down for hit on Dagg

30 Apr 11:25 PM
Super Rugby

Blues win would turn the joke on Aussie rugby

01 May 02:29 AM
Sport|rugby

Team of the Week: Taufua 'simply tremendous'

01 May 02:36 AM
All Blacks

How Carter's career continued after 'fairytale ending'

01 May 05:31 AM

This much became apparent when there was loud music booming out of the Jaguares dressing room after their historic victory against the Blues at Eden Park.

There was plenty of singing and whooping too and the mood was quite obviously celebratory.

Their coach, Mario Ledesma, a supremely rugged and tough hooker who played almost 20 years in the French top league and who is now in his mid-40s, made reference to his discomfort at what was going on in there.

It was okay tonight he said because they had won, but the fact the players were doing it all the time, regardless of outcome, was going to have to end he said.

Losers shouldn't be singing and dancing was the message. He also talked about his concern that during the first half he felt his players were scared to win. That they lacked the belief they were good enough.

At what point in the game did that change he was asked. "When I abused them at half-time," he replied. The proverbial rocket was fired during the break and it hit the target.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Nicolas Sanchez of the Jaguares celebrates the victory. Photo / Photosport
Nicolas Sanchez of the Jaguares celebrates the victory. Photo / Photosport

There is much about the current way of doing things in New Zealand which is to be admired and celebrated and no one should be thinking that turning back the clock to introduce wholesale 'old school' practices would be helpful.

But there should still be license for coaches of an older generation to bring the odd bit of yester-year into the dressing room.

There should still be a time and a place for the stick to be used instead of the carrot.

And maybe most important of all is for young players to reconsider what they term 'old school'.

At the moment it is a catch-all euphemism applied to any coach who thinks hard work, patience and discipline are the bedrocks of any good team and who gets a little grumpy when these qualities aren't on view.

Perhaps it needs to be amended to include only those who don't have Netflix, use a phone to speak to people, or think that Facebook isn't brilliant but instead a tedious point-scoring forum where people can make out they are having a better time than they really are to impress their supposed group of friends.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

That would at least open the door to some coaches feeling they could be a little more 'old school' and inject greater honesty and integrity into the environment.

To get the day's top sports stories in your inbox, sign up to our newsletter here

Save

    Share this article

Latest from Super Rugby

Super Rugby

'Not sure yet' – Penney coy on Crusaders coaching future

22 Jun 03:29 AM
Premium
Opinion

Super Rugby final player ratings: One All Black picked the worst time to disappoint

21 Jun 09:00 PM
Premium
Analysis

Liam Napier: Super Rugby final redemption and agony in equal measures

21 Jun 09:56 AM

Jono and Ben brew up a tea-fuelled adventure in Sri Lanka

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from Super Rugby

'Not sure yet' – Penney coy on Crusaders coaching future

'Not sure yet' – Penney coy on Crusaders coaching future

22 Jun 03:29 AM

Rob Penney is keeping his cards close to his chest with regards to his coaching future.

Premium
Super Rugby final player ratings: One All Black picked the worst time to disappoint

Super Rugby final player ratings: One All Black picked the worst time to disappoint

21 Jun 09:00 PM
Premium
Liam Napier: Super Rugby final redemption and agony in equal measures

Liam Napier: Super Rugby final redemption and agony in equal measures

21 Jun 09:56 AM
Crusaders claim Super Rugby Pacific title

Crusaders claim Super Rugby Pacific title

21 Jun 08:57 AM
Help for those helping hardest-hit
sponsored

Help for those helping hardest-hit

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP