NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / Sport / Rugby / All Blacks

Scott Robertson’s first All Blacks team an ultimate risk v reward case - Gregor Paul

Gregor Paul
By Gregor Paul
Rugby analyst·NZ Herald·
4 Jul, 2024 06:27 AM5 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
11Comments

Subscriber benefit

The ability to gift paywall-free articles is a subscriber only benefit. See more offers by clicking the button below.

Already a subscriber?  Sign in here
Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

All Blacks v England - What history says
A breakdown of the wins and losses since the All Blacks first took on England in 1905. Video / NZ Herald
Video Player is loading.
Current Time 0:00
/
Duration 0:00
Loaded: 0%
0:00
Stream Type LIVE
Remaining Time -0:00
 
1x
    • Chapters
    • descriptions off, selected
    • captions settings, opens captions settings dialog
    • captions off, selected

      This is a modal window.

      Beginning of dialog window. Escape will cancel and close the window.

      Text
      Text Background
      Caption Area Background
      Font Size
      Text Edge Style
      Font Family

      End of dialog window.

      This is a modal window. This modal can be closed by pressing the Escape key or activating the close button.

      Herald NOW: Daily Sports Update: June 11 2025

      UP NEXT:

      Autoplay in
      5
      Disable Autoplay
      Cancel Video
      A breakdown of the wins and losses since the All Blacks first took on England in 1905. Video / NZ Herald
      NOW PLAYING • All Blacks v England - What history says
      A breakdown of the wins and losses since the All Blacks first took on England in 1905. Video / NZ Herald
      Gregor Paul
      Opinion by Gregor Paul
      Rugby analyst and feature writer
      Learn more

      THREE KEY FACTS

      • Scott Robertson has named his match-day 23 for the All Blacks’ first test against England
      • Beauden Barrett has been left out of the starting side, with Stephen Perofeta starting at fullback
      • Along with Sevu Reece on the wing, Perofeta’s place leaves the All Blacks physically light in the back three

      Gregor Paul is one of New Zealand’s most respected rugby writers and columnists. He has won multiple awards for journalism and has written several books about sport.

      OPINION

      The big clue about how the All Blacks may play under Scott Robertson is hiding in plain sight now that his first team has been unveiled, as he has picked a test match pack of forwards and a Super Rugby backline.

      Advertisement
      Advertise with NZME.

      It’s an intriguing mix of clash and dash that has been spliced together, and on a PowerPoint presentation level it makes sense – the pack is loaded with test veterans and athletes who can produce the requisite grunt work at set piece and collision to ensure there is a stream of possession for a backline that is dripping in X-factor.

      Keep up to date with the day's biggest stories

      Sign up to our daily curated newsletter for the day's top stories straight to your inbox.
      Please email me competitions, offers and other updates. You can stop these at any time.
      By signing up for this newsletter, you agree to NZME’s Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

      This formula has undoubted theoretical merit and certainly, after a few wobbly years in 2021 and 2022 when the All Blacks’ pack was built for Super Rugby, there’s something reassuring about seeing the names Tyrel Lomax, Ethan de Groot, Scott Barrett, Samipeni Finau and Ardie Savea on the team sheet.

      These are men – as are Codie Taylor, Patrick Tuipulotu and Dalton Papali’i – who inspire a high degree of confidence that the All Blacks are not going to be taking a knife to a gunfight.

      England can be sure they will be facing an All Blacks forward pack that is not only physically equipped for the modern demands of test rugby but is also mentally attuned to the attritional nature of it all and the need to adopt an unrelenting mindset that they are in a war of inches.

      Advertisement
      Advertise with NZME.

      The adage has always been that if international teams win the battle of the trenches, then they set themselves to win the game, and under the roof in Dunedin there’s a possibility that a backline loaded with high-rollers such as Damian McKenzie, Mark Tele’a, Sevu Reece and Stephen Perofeta conjures all sorts of high jinks and trickery to leave England chasing shadows and gasping for air.

      But there’s no escaping the fact that Robertson and his fellow selectors have picked a high-risk, high-reward back three and that there is an alternative scenario whereby England recognise the opportunity they have to expose the inexperience and lack of heavy-duty defensive weaponry in the All Blacks’ back-field.

      Discover more

      Sport

      Gregor Paul: The signs that point to McKenzie's readiness for ABs No 10 role

      03 Jul 05:30 PM
      Rugby

      Provincial unions planning power heist at NZ Rugby AGM

      02 Jul 09:40 PM
      All Blacks

      Gregor Paul: All Blacks need sweet spot of power and skill

      01 Jul 06:00 PM
      Sport

      Gregor Paul: What would Sky be buying in NZR broadcast deal?

      27 Jun 06:07 PM

      Tele’a and Reece are excitement machines – uncannily brilliant at breaking tackles, wriggling free in impossible situations and sparking something from nothing.

      Their Super Rugby Pacific form was exceptional, and while Perofeta missed much of the campaign through injury, he’s an equally gifted runner from the back field and just as capable of finding his way past the first wave of tacklers.

      But the issue is whether they make sense as a combination – or at least, whether they have the right mix of skills to face an England team that, for all it is trying to build a more expansive repertoire, still believes strongly in defaulting to lower risk rugby to build pressure and will happily bombard the New Zealand back three with box kicks to keep them locked in defensive mode.

      The All Blacks have picked a back three that will be deadly if they are given space to run, but it’s a unit that looks a touch vulnerable to a well-executed contestable kick strategy and cleverly orchestrated plays that leave Reece and Perofeta exposed to having to make one-on-one tackles against England’s most dynamic ball-carriers.

      Reece is a deceptively strong tackler, but both he and Perofeta are relatively small men in the greater scheme of things and the decision to leave Beauden Barrett out of the starting XV may be one that comes back to haunt Robertson.

      Barrett is not only brave and accurate under the high ball, but also a genuinely robust defender with a deep understanding of where a fullback needs to be positioned at this level.

      Advertisement
      Advertise with NZME.

      He’s hugely experienced, calm and capable of directing his wings to precisely where they need to be, and he comes with the additional – and considerable – benefit of being able to slip into first receiver.

      Robertson stated that he wanted experience and impact from his bench and that Perofeta was the form fullback, and while that all makes sense, starting with Barrett would give the back three a better defensive-offensive balance and a strong tactical operator to feed his thoughts into the decision-making and take some of the playmaking pressure off McKenzie, whose experience at No 10 in the test arena is limited.

      But this is where the intrigue of appointing Robertson as All Blacks coach lies. He’s a visionary and innovator and he was put in play to bring something different.

      His back three selection encapsulates how he may be seeing the international game through a different lens than his predecessors and that he’s ready to invest in building attacking systems and mindsets that have not been seen at this level before.

      The defensive risk he’s taking with his back three is obvious, but so too is the attacking reward, and he’s backing himself and his coaching team to ensure that they build a game plan that allows the latter to prevail.

      For live commentary of All Blacks v England, join Elliott Smith on Newstalk ZB, Gold Sport and iHeartRadio.

      You can hear the Alternative Commentary Collective on iHeartRadio, Hauraki and Sky Sport 9.

      Live updates at nzherald.co.nz

      Subscriber benefit

      The ability to gift paywall-free articles is a subscriber only benefit. See more offers by clicking the button below.

      Already a subscriber?  Sign in here
      Save

        Share this article

        Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

      11

      Comments

      Latest from All Blacks

      Premium
      All Blacks

      All Blacks add new coach to Scott Robertson’s team

      13 Jun 01:00 AM
      Premium
      Analysis

      Super Rugby: How the Blues can beat the Crusaders

      12 Jun 06:01 PM
      Premium
      All Blacks

      'Real driver for us': Blues inspired by Suafoa's brave battle

      11 Jun 11:01 PM

      It was just a stopover – 18 months later, they call it home

      sponsored
      Advertisement
      Advertise with NZME.
      Recommended for you
      Israel strikes on Iran kill top military leaders, escalate tensions
      World

      Israel strikes on Iran kill top military leaders, escalate tensions

      13 Jun 09:50 AM
      Super Rugby semi: Crusaders edge Blues in thriller
      Super Rugby

      Super Rugby semi: Crusaders edge Blues in thriller

      13 Jun 09:26 AM
      Watch: Fears for St Bernard as owner flees burning home, 3 Lyttelton houses alight
      New Zealand

      Watch: Fears for St Bernard as owner flees burning home, 3 Lyttelton houses alight

      13 Jun 08:03 AM
      Patients say they didn't receive drugs a private ambulance claims to have given
      New Zealand

      Patients say they didn't receive drugs a private ambulance claims to have given

      13 Jun 07:00 AM
      'Full alert': Cambodia restricts Thai internet in border spat
      World

      'Full alert': Cambodia restricts Thai internet in border spat

      13 Jun 06:32 AM

      Latest from All Blacks

      Premium
      All Blacks add new coach to Scott Robertson’s team

      All Blacks add new coach to Scott Robertson’s team

      13 Jun 01:00 AM

      A former All Blacks lock will work on improving the lineout.

      Premium
      Super Rugby: How the Blues can beat the Crusaders

      Super Rugby: How the Blues can beat the Crusaders

      12 Jun 06:01 PM
      Premium
      'Real driver for us': Blues inspired by Suafoa's brave battle

      'Real driver for us': Blues inspired by Suafoa's brave battle

      11 Jun 11:01 PM
      All Blacks winger re-signs with NZ Rugby and Blues

      All Blacks winger re-signs with NZ Rugby and Blues

      10 Jun 08:20 PM
      The woman behind NZ’s first PAK’nSAVE
      sponsored

      The woman behind NZ’s first PAK’nSAVE

      NZ Herald
      • About NZ Herald
      • Meet the journalists
      • Newsletters
      • Classifieds
      • Help & support
      • Contact us
      • House rules
      • Privacy Policy
      • Terms of use
      • Competition terms & conditions
      • Our use of AI
      Subscriber Services
      • NZ Herald e-editions
      • Daily puzzles & quizzes
      • Manage your digital subscription
      • Manage your print subscription
      • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
      • Subscribe to Herald Premium
      • Gift a subscription
      • Subscriber FAQs
      • Subscription terms & conditions
      • Promotions and subscriber benefits
      NZME Network
      • The New Zealand Herald
      • The Northland Age
      • The Northern Advocate
      • Waikato Herald
      • Bay of Plenty Times
      • Rotorua Daily Post
      • Hawke's Bay Today
      • Whanganui Chronicle
      • Viva
      • NZ Listener
      • Newstalk ZB
      • BusinessDesk
      • OneRoof
      • Driven Car Guide
      • iHeart Radio
      • Restaurant Hub
      NZME
      • About NZME
      • NZME careers
      • Advertise with NZME
      • Digital self-service advertising
      • Book your classified ad
      • Photo sales
      • NZME Events
      • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
      TOP
      search by queryly Advanced Search