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'What's your spy name?': Spying debate goes off track

Isaac Davison
By Isaac Davison
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17 Mar, 2017 05:11 AM3 mins to read

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Minister for the BCSB and NZ SIS Chris Finlayson, also known as Francis Lohia. Photo / John Stone

Minister for the BCSB and NZ SIS Chris Finlayson, also known as Francis Lohia. Photo / John Stone

The acrimonious debate on New Zealand's spying agencies four years ago appeared to be long forgotten as MPs tackled a new round of spying reforms this week.

In 2013, activists marched on the streets, the Government Communications and Security Bureau (GCSB) was accused of mass surveillance, and political parties were at each others' throats.

But as the NZ Intelligence and Security Bill returned to Parliament on Wednesday, debate instead centred on which MP had the best "spy name" and who the best fictional spy was.

Speaking on a part of the legislation which dealt with covert activities, Labour's finance spokesman Grant Robertson introduced a " little game" which he learned in his former role as a diplomat.

"If want to create your own spy identity, what you should do is take your middle name and the street where you grew up."

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He showed the other MPs how do it.

"I myself am Murray Pretoria ... which I think makes me sound like a South African spy, but that is me.

"So I invite other members of the House to have a think about where they are at in terms of their identity."

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As the debate proceeded, MPs obliged. Labour's Palmerston North MP Iain Lees-Galloway said his spy name was Francis Robertson, and Te Tai Tokerau MP Kelvin Davis was Glen Leonard.

New Zealand First MP Denis O'Rourke wasn't playing ball. He did, however, reveal his favourite spy movie, The Third Man.

"This bill really conjures up all of those images that you see in that movie - the trench coat, the wide-brimmed hat, the dangling cigarette, and the muttered conservations in shady places."

He paused.

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"It is very much like the way the National Party caucus works, actually."

Labour's David Parker preferred Frederick Forsyth's Day of the Jackal. Davis revealed he was a fan of Maxwell Smart, or Agent 86.

"I remember the time he was a bit distressed by the fact that his girlfriend, Agent 99, was paying too much attention to Agent 43, and she pacified him by saying 'Don't worry 86, you're worth two 43s'."

Minister for the GCSB and SIS Chris Finlayson, who is in charge of the reforms, then set about getting the discussion back on track.

The bill, after all, is arguably more significant than the 2013 reforms. It will allow the GCSB to spy on New Zealanders for the first time.

But first, Finlayson had to reveal his spy name: Francis Lohia. MPs agreed that was a pretty poor secret identity.

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"I do not think that would work at all well," Finlayson admitted.

"But, anyway, back to serious stuff."

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