“They all denied that they gained influence – and they would say that,” Rashbrooke says.
“But then when we pushed on things, they revealed some pretty remarkable levels of access to politicians.”
He says one donor he spoke to talked quite casually about the level of access they had to former politicians, with them coming around for lunches or stopping for conversations on the street.
Rashbrooke provides a compelling argument for what that access entails, why we should all be concerned about it and what it means for our political system.
Listen to the full episode of this podcast for a fascinating look behind the veil of one of the dodgier sides of New Zealand politics, and what the options are for changing the system.