Simon Bridges says the summit is a "talk-fest" and a waste of time. He wants less talking, more doing. But the doing he wants will have us building mega prisons filled with Māori. New Zealanders are searching for new ways of doing crime and justice, confronting the moral and political dilemmas of this complex area of our lives together. Bridges dismisses the whole exercise, recycling mindless old slogans about "getting tough" on crime.
Garth McVicar has been our main opinion leader on criminal justice for 15 years. He is a doer, not a talker or a thinker, and misinformed about the issue he has dedicated his life to doing something about. In his book Justice, published by Penguin, he presents a graph showing crime spiralling relentlessly upwards since the 1950s. In fact, crime has been falling for 25 years. Along this fictional upward line, he scatters vaguely named events such as "1973 Human Rights" and "1974 DPB". It looks like something scrawled on a napkin by a pub drunk.
Too much doing, not enough thinking. It is time to bury myths. If we are serious about reducing prison numbers and keeping our communities safe, we need to come together to share our knowledge and educate one another. We need to talk about justice. We need to talk at the kitchen table, on the marae, in the counsellor's office, in the car on the way to rugby practice. And every so often, we need to talk at a national summit with hundreds who care.
These are not problems you talk about once and solve for good. The process has just begun. Those in power have created an opening for fresh thinking and new ideas. Let's not waste the chance.
Dr Liam Martin is a criminologist at the University of Victoria.