NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather forecasts

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
    • The Great NZ Road Trip
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
    • Cooking the Books
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • What the Actual
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / New Zealand

<i>Stephen Loosley:</i> NZ election - we're happy whoever wins

By Stephen Loosley
NZ Herald·
26 Oct, 2008 03:00 PM5 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

John Key makes headlines in New Zealand, but the average Aussie may not know who he is. Photo / Sarah Ivey

John Key makes headlines in New Zealand, but the average Aussie may not know who he is. Photo / Sarah Ivey

Opinion

KEY POINTS:

New Zealand politics has produced some memorable lines over the years which have become part of the fabric of Australian political discourse.

Among the sharper observations are two serrated remarks from opposite sides of the political aisle. First, Prime Minister "Piggy" Muldoon was once asked his view of his opposite number, David Lange. Pausing momentarily, Muldoon was dismissive: "Oh, shallow as a bird bath."

Prime Minister Lange had an equally cutting tongue. Quizzed on his view of his former Finance Minister, Roger Douglas, being appointed to advise the Polish Government on free market economics, Lange replied acidly that he would have thought the Poles had already suffered enough.

These penetrating observations aside, coverage of New Zealand politics on the other side of the Tasman is often reduced to an image which tends to raise eyebrows here.

Australian cynics might suggest mischievously that it was entirely appropriate for Prime Minister Helen Clark to be introduced to a splendidly big-horned sheep in the forecourt of the parliamentary precincts but Muldoon seemed an odd choice for The Narrator in the Rocky Horror Show.

Other memorable moments have included Prime Minister Sir Geoffrey Palmer displaying his skills on a trumpet and Finance Minister Ruth Richardson endeavouring to master a trampoline.

Now Australian politics also tends to produce such silliness. But by and large, this is at the margins (see Senate Independents).

Nonetheless, informed Australian observers of New Zealand understand that the outcome of the general election on November 8 does matter in this country. It matters in all the diversity of the transtasman relationship: politics and Government, economy and national security.

Sport, which is of course often seen as the most important bond between the two countries and our two peoples, will fortunately remain largely unaffected, regardless of whether Labour or National emerges triumphant.

To begin, relations between Canberra and Wellington are in sound order. Governments of both persuasions in both countries have worked hard at this. Helen Clark enjoyed a productive working relationship with John Howard.

If anything, this has improved since Kevin Rudd and the Labor Government were elected last November. It's easy to take this for granted but it should be recalled that even governments of supposedly similar philosophical persuasion, as reflected in Hawke/Labor and Lange/Labour configurations, can fall out, as occurred in the middle 1980s over US nuclear ship visits and over the emerging Libyan presence in the South Pacific.

According to some assessments, New Zealand has just slipped into a recession. Australian growth has also slowed and may well slow further, in the light of global developments, but our two economies are interrelated and a recession across the Tasman has a consequent impact here.

Closer Economic Relations (CER) should be considered one of the great success stories of both Australian and New Zealand diplomacy. A transtasman trade annually of $16 billion in goods and $6 billion in services is impressive by any criteria. And CER has contributed to the economic health and opportunity index for tens of thousands of people in both countries.

A recession in New Zealand, therefore, means fewer opportunities for Australian and New Zealand business and a likelihood of more New Zealanders crossing the Tasman for better opportunities in Oz. Already, there are some 350,000 Kiwis in this country. Overwhelmingly, they've settled easily as fine citizens and have contributed much to our national wellbeing, even if their real loyalties emerge at All Blacks' or Warriors' games or during cricket, sailing, basketball and netball seasons.

Strategically, too, New Zealand has always made a difference to Australia. Australian defence planners routinely assume a high degree of co-operation with their New Zealand counterparts in the event of a serious threat to national security. And the war in Afghanistan has again underlined the value of New Zealand military qualities. Continuity in strategic co-operation between the two countries retains a real significance.

Now, about as many Australians understand the New Zealand two-way voting system as New Zealanders understand Australia's exhaustive preferential system. For Australians watching a New Zealand election, therefore, there is an added interest in trying to calculate the results from the two streams. How anyone can predict the shape of the next Government of New Zealand, with its two-tier voting and horse trading over coalitions, defies the imagination. It's a little bit like trying to predict the direction of New Zealand First policies a week before a release of a manifesto. It's all in the lap of the gods.

Some years ago I was in New Zealand on a rugby tour with my younger son. It was during an election campaign and the front page issue was the fact that someone had defaced posters of Prime Minister Helen Clark in downtown Auckland by drawing on them. To someone used to the hard-ball nature of Australian politics, this seemed almost gentle.

Gentle or otherwise, New Zealand politics is not currently on the front page here and John Key is utterly unknown. But after November 8, New Zealanders can be certain that Australians will view the results with a great deal of interest.

Discover more

New Zealand|politics

What issues are important to you as Election 08 approaches?

29 Sep 01:48 AM
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Save

    Share this article

Latest from New Zealand

Premium
New Zealand

On The Up: Digger driver clears 37 tyres from a beach in one day

08 May 06:00 PM
Opinion

10 reasons why banning social media for Kiwis under 16 is a bad idea – and will affect adults too

08 May 05:00 PM
New Zealand

Mayor seeks extra $3.5m from regional council for $32.3m sewerage scheme

08 May 05:00 PM

One tiny baby’s fight to survive

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from New Zealand

Premium
On The Up: Digger driver clears 37 tyres from a beach in one day

On The Up: Digger driver clears 37 tyres from a beach in one day

08 May 06:00 PM

Tim Dodge thought he'd never walk again. Now he's back, and he's determined to help.

10 reasons why banning social media for Kiwis under 16 is a bad idea – and will affect adults too

10 reasons why banning social media for Kiwis under 16 is a bad idea – and will affect adults too

08 May 05:00 PM
Mayor seeks extra $3.5m from regional council for $32.3m sewerage scheme

Mayor seeks extra $3.5m from regional council for $32.3m sewerage scheme

08 May 05:00 PM
Sweet success: Northland gelato chain's national expansion

Sweet success: Northland gelato chain's national expansion

08 May 05:00 PM
Connected workers are safer workers 
sponsored

Connected workers are safer workers 

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • What the Actual
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven CarGuide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP