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Fire union reverses order to issue CPR instructions during 111 calls

Natalie Akoorie
By Natalie Akoorie
Local Democracy Editor·NZ Herald·
6 Jan, 2018 05:45 AM4 mins to read

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Fire 111 call takers say it isn't safe for them to give CPR instructions over the phone like their St John counterparts such as Mark Jackaman did to help Joan and Des Fisher. Photo / John Borren

Fire 111 call takers say it isn't safe for them to give CPR instructions over the phone like their St John counterparts such as Mark Jackaman did to help Joan and Des Fisher. Photo / John Borren

Firefighters have blocked a directive to issue CPR instructions during 111 calls because they are not trained in the medical emergencies.

The order for fire communications centre staff to provide CPR instructions to patients over the phone came from Fire and Emergency New Zealand [FENZ] four days before Christmas, one of the busiest periods for emergency calls.

But the advice was quickly removed following feedback from some FENZ staff who said they would quit over the directive because it was so unsafe.

The Weekend Herald has seen the order to more than 80 fire communications centre staff nationwide to read a set of nine St John CPR instructions to callers where patients are not breathing, including how to shock a patient with a defibrillator, and how to carry out CPR on a newborn.

The following day on December 22 the northern branch of the New Zealand Professional Firefighters Union sent a memo to all delegates from Taupo north instructing them not to follow the CPR directive.

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Auckland Local secretary John Waldow said fire communications centre staff were not adequately trained or supported to give CPR instructions in an emergency call.

"They would have been having to do medical work essentially. These staff have received zero training on this."

He said to make matters worse most of the fire communications centre staff did not have a current workplace first aid certificate because they had expired.

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"So now you have somebody who isn't up to date in first aid going to give potentially lifesaving instructions over the phone."

The union's biggest concern was the lack of support if something went wrong.

"The control room operator is a human being as well. They need to be supported and trained to do this if this is how it's going to go."

A FENZ spokeswoman said the directive was almost immediately rescinded.

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The CPR instructions were "intended to help those staff deal with calls that needed immediate CPR help", she said.

"Our normal practice is for our operators to record people's details and transfer them to the ambulance so the advice was recalled quite quickly and that normal practice continues."

New Zealand Faculty Chair of the Australasian College for Emergency Medicine, Dr John Bonning, said every minute counted in emergencies such as a cardiac arrest and it was imperative callers were provided with advice that could save lives.

"If somebody can start CPR within 30 seconds or a minute their life might be saved. There are absolutely lives saved by the immediacy of response and advice to do bystander CPR."

Defibrillators were also crucial but Bonning, who is clinical director of the emergency department at Waikato Hospital, stressed that 111 calls must be for emergencies only.

"We do need to unburden emergency lines because lives will be saved by immediacy and response in those real emergencies, particularly in CPR."

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Medical calls to fire staff were increasing according to a staff member, because of an automated answer system that kicked in when Spark 111 call takers were overloaded.

A limited number of Spark 111 call takers across the country forward emergency calls to either police, fire or ambulance.

But when the calls begin to queue it triggers an automated system, known as Interactive Voice Response (IVR), where the calls are diverted and the caller selects an emergency service from a pre-recorded message.

When the IVR is triggered it remains active for at least 30 minutes and up to an hour over the New Year. It was activated on December 22 and is currently in place until February 1.

Meanwhile police 111 calls were also spilling over to fire call takers, with one communications staff member receiving a call from a man "getting a beating on his front lawn".

Last month police said 111 calls to them exceeded 77,000 in November, the most of any month last year not including December.

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Communication Centres national manager Superintendent Dave Trappitt said there was increased pressure on call centres and with longer than usual wait times possible.

Police were recruiting new staff and seconding staff from other areas to cope with the increased demand.

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