This week's debate has prodded old scabs - Clark meeting Shrek instead of the foreshore and seabed hui of "haters and wreckers", Clark referring to the Maori Party as "last cab off the rank". It was a reminder that the Maori Party owed Clark nothing.
Flavell has argued Clark's actions on the Foreshore and Seabed Act were driven by politics rather than principle. In return, the Maori Party decided its stance on Clark based on principle rather than "populism".
But there is also a political driver. The Maori Party was not seeking widespread sanction of its stance. After eight years of being described as National's lapdog, it was trying to remind the Maori people it did exist and why it existed. It was trying to remind them that the Labour Party they had given most of the Maori seats to did not have a blemish-free history.
It was trying to remind them it was the Maori Party which persuaded National to sign the Declaration on Indigenous Peoples' Rights and to replace the Foreshore and Seabed Act.
At first, it seemed the Maori Party was guilty of petty politics partly because it had spoken out just days before the second straw poll on the candidates in the Security Council. But the Maori Party was as surprised as anybody when its decision popped up out of nowhere this week. The party's council had met back in May and decided they could not support Clark.
Fox spelled that out in an interview with Te Karere soon after. She said Clark could do the job and New Zealand would be proud to have her in it. However, the Maori Party's view was that until she apologised or at least acknowledged the "mistakes" she had made, the party could not support her bid.
That was not picked up more widely until this week when a reporter rang Fox after she tweeted about Tina Ngata's similar criticism of Clark to a UN forum on indigenous issues. It is not a good look for Clark, but nor will it erode her chances.
Clark is at least in a better position than Rudd. At the same time the Maori Party was bucking John Key's campaign to promote Helen Clark, Australian media had pieced together a possible link between Key being caught with his fly down last Friday and Turnbull's decision to reject Rudd's request to be nominated for Secretary-General.
In explaining why his fly was down, Key had explained to More FM he was in the gents when Malcolm Turnbull rang him to talk about Helen Clark.
Two days later, Key was in the media sledging Rudd. Three days later, Turnbull delivered the casting vote to reject Rudd.
Australian Labor MP Penny Wong accused Turnbull of "outsourc[ing] his dirty work to the Prime Minister of New Zealand." If that was the case, it shows Key has learned a bit from Turnbull's predecessor Tony Abbott. Scuppering Rudd was an A+ shirt-front by Key.
