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Carmel Sepuloni: New Zealand’s next Deputy Prime Minister

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Carmel Sepuloni talks to the media ahead of the caucus meeting where she is expected to be made Deputy Prime Minister. Video / Mark Mitchell

Carmel Sepuloni has been confirmed as Labour’s deputy leader to Chris Hipkins today after Kiri Allan yesterday ruled herself out.

Sepuloni first entered Parliament after the 2008 general election as a List member, becoming New Zealand’s first MP of Tongan descent.

She is the MP for Kelston and has been New Zealand’s Minister for Social Development since 2017.

She is also Minister for ACC and Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage.

She was also previously the Minister for Disability Issues, but last year passed that portfolio to colleague Poto Williams.

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Born and raised in Waitara, Taranaki, Sepuloni moved to Auckland in 1996.

She graduated from the Auckland College of Education with a Diploma in Teaching (Primary), before going on to the University of Auckland and earning a Bachelor of Education. She also holds a Postgraduate Diploma in Education.

Her father was a Samoan-Tongan migrant freezing worker and unionist. Her mother was Pākehā from a farming background. The MP is the middle child of three daughters.

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Before entering Parliament, she worked in the tertiary sector as a literacy educator, a student mentor adviser, an equity manager, and a Pacific health research project manager.

On social media, the potential new Deputy PM describes herself as “a mother, a daughter of a migrant, Government Minister & NZ Labour MP for Kelston”.

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She has previously spoken of her love of poetry, and not just because she is married to poet Daren Kamali. She also writes poetry that she says “will never see the light of day”.

“My husband likes to say that I’m creative as well, and I quietly write poetry that I only share with him,” she said in an interview with Stuff last year.

“It’s funny because I don’t know if poetry ever comes from a happy place. It’s always when I’m in a bad mood. It’s quite therapeutic, I’ve found. But no one needs to see that.”

Sepuloni, 46, is the mother of two boys. In the throes of lockdown in 2021, the minister went viral when one of her sons interrupted a live interview she was doing from home. The incident got the nation laughing and generated a lot of discussion about the challenges for parents trying to work from home during the Covid-19 pandemic.

Despite an early career in education, Sepuloni has previously stated that she had thought of entering politics from a young age, as she had the drive to help create a fairer society.

“Interestingly, growing up — and friends still remind me of this — I used to say that this is what I would do. That I would be a politician. And they found it so funny at the time,” she said in an interview with E-Tangata in 2017.

“I think in many ways, Māori and Pacific [people] are naturally quite political. We’ve got a lot of challenges that we face, and many of us are only too aware of what those challenges are. That causes frustration for us,” she added in the interview.

“We can see the unfairness unfolding around us, whether it be health statistics or educational outcomes. Pay inequality. All of those things that we see in our own lives, our families’ lives, and our communities. So, I think it’s really difficult not to feel political in some way.”

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In the end, she puts her successful move into politics down to timing.

“I joined the Labour Party and became active not long before the 2008 election, when the party was looking to have better representation, looking for younger representation and looking to rejuvenate more generally. I just happened to be one of the ones that came along — who at the time seemed to tick all the boxes for the Labour Party,” she said in the same interview.

Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni has a strong sense of social justice. Photo / Mark Mitchell
Social Development Minister Carmel Sepuloni has a strong sense of social justice. Photo / Mark Mitchell

“On top of that, I do, like many other people who are involved, have a strong sense of social justice and fairness and equity. All of those things are really important for me.”

As Minister of Social Development for the past five years, Sepuloni has been steadily reforming the system via measures including raising benefit levels, adopting a less punitive approach to sanctions and overseeing a review of the Working for Families welfare scheme.

Writing in the Herald at the time of ramraids last August, Sepuloni reflected on her time as an at-risk youth educator with tertiary students.

“I’ve seen what works and what doesn’t, and punitive approaches to young people - or people in general, really - already experiencing complex challenges don’t. I liken it to pushing someone over who is wanting and trying to get up, while yelling at them to get up.”

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As Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage, Sepuloni has set up a scheme for painters and other visual artists whose work is resold to get 5 per cent of royalties, bringing New Zealand in line with 80 other countries.

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