There's no doubt bail should be strenuously denied for some offenders, like Akshay Chand who was on bail for kidnapping and threatening Christie Marceau with a knife. He was inexplicably released on bail and just over a month later killed the young woman.
Some would say that one death like Christie's would be enough to lock them up while they await trial. And in this case that's true but it was an exception rather than a rule.
The Government's looking at a criminal justice package of measures rather than building more prisons, which is essentially burying the problem rather than addressing it.
Just as it seemed to have the upper hand over Simon Bridges, who was accusing it of going soft on crime and putting our safety at risk, it scored an own goal.
Andrew Little dropped what appeared to be a clanger and a partial explanation as to the growing remand population, that Housing New Zealand was banning remand or parole prisoners from living in state houses. Many were being kept in prison as a result we were told.
Not so said his colleague Phil Twyford, there's no ban in place, immediately weakening Little's argument. But Little was adamant, citing examples of bail being declined because of a state house address.
Anecdotes over actuality it seems - let's hope the law changes are based on the latter.