NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / Lifestyle

'It's good to be slightly crazy'

By Jake Kerridge
Daily Telegraph UK·
28 Sep, 2013 05:00 PM6 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

Norwegian crime writer Jo Nesbo.

Norwegian crime writer Jo Nesbo.

Norwegian crime writer Jo Nesbo talks to Jake Kerridge about his latest Harry Hole novel and his fascination with what makes ordinary people do evil things

There is an Edvard Munch exhibition on in Oslo, and the famous tormented figure from The Scream can be seen on every hoarding and the side of every bus.

But there is one other face that almost matches his for ubiquity. The crime novelist Jo Nesbo gazes at me not only from billboards but also, in various striking poses, from the front covers of a score of commuters' paperbacks. It is difficult to say which is the more prominent poster boy for art that depicts the angst lying beneath the placid surface of everyday life in Norway.

I meet Nesbo at a coffee shop in central Oslo, where we head for a discreet corner at the back. In an earlier incarnation he was one of the most famous musicians in Norway, as a member of the band Di Derre (Those Guys) and until a couple of years ago he sported the long hair that befits an old rocker. Now, seeking to be less conspicuous, he has it cropped military-style. Indecently handsome at 53, he isn't in the flesh quite the smouldering figure seen on those book covers, but although he is softly spoken his piercing eyes command attention.

Nesbo is a big deal in Norway. Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg is a fan and once told Nesbo that, while making small-talk during his first meeting with the King, he had recommended Nesbo's novel, The Redbreast. "And the king said, 'Oh really, what is it about?' And, unfortunately, then he remembered it's about a man who wants to kill the Norwegian royal family."

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

But he is hardly less feted throughout the rest of the world. He has sold more than 20 million books and he tells me that he is having a meeting with Martin Scorsese, who is set to produce a forthcoming film of his novel The Snowman.

It is not, he says, normal practice in Norway for photographs of authors to adorn the front covers of their paperbacks. Does this rock star-come-novelist feel that, more than most writers, he is a brand?

"Yeah I am, I am. And I don't mind that, I realise that is what you become. But my daughter grew up with me being a well-known man, and I remember she would say that there was a picture of Jo Nesbo in the papers today, not Dad. And she said it 'Jo-Nesbo', like it's one word. And that's how I see it: Jo-Nesbo is the brand and I'm the guy who is a dad or a brother or a bandmate."

I'm not sure how easy it is for him to maintain this attitude, though, as a few minutes later a middle-aged woman bears down on our table, brandishing a shiny new hardback, fresh from the bookshop next door, which she requests him to sign for her daughter.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Does this happen often?

"It happens quite a lot, yeah," he says, with a look that can be described only as sheepish.

He has not achieved this level of popularity by shying away from the darker side of the human mind, in his portrayal of his heroes as well as his villains. Nesbo's latest novel, Police, which boasts the customary ability to render attempts at work and sleep futile until it is finished, sees the return for the 10th time of his brilliant but wayward detective Harry Hole, a man so tortured by his inner demons that you feel he could have been the sitter for Munch's painting. Here Harry finds himself contemplating infidelity, indulging in violent rape fantasies and questioning whether he can regard himself as morally superior to the serial killer he is hunting.

"I'm not sure the fantasies of, let's say, criminals and non-criminals are that different," says Nesbo. "I think that most people have fantasised about having their loved ones killed or raped, so that we can then justify our revenge fantasies.

Discover more

Lifestyle

Book review: Gardens Of Stone

07 Sep 06:00 PM
Lifestyle

Book review: Let the games begin

13 Sep 06:00 PM
Lifestyle

Book review: Snake Bite

21 Sep 06:00 PM
Lifestyle

Book review: The Young Desire It

20 Sep 06:00 PM

"Most of us have a sort of internal censorship, and if there's something we shouldn't think about, like maybe having sex with your mother, you will think about it for a fraction of a second and then stop yourself. But as a writer what you should do is stop and roll with that for a moment ... and your readers can read about it without having to take the responsibility of that being their own thoughts."

Ever since he was a child and noticed that one of his fellow pupils took the trouble to bring tweezers to school in order to pull the legs and wings off flies, he has been interested in what makes people do evil things. "I thought, do the bad guys see themselves as bad guys or good guys? If I went inside their heads, would I see things totally differently, like a photo negative?"

He also took the time to wonder how the flies felt about it, he says. He now admits that this sort of empathetic curiosity - how does a man feel if he's been tied to a hot oven and the person torturing him keeps throwing water in his face to stop him from fainting? - has led him to overdo some violent scenes in his books.

Surprisingly, he confesses to having little interest in the Norwegian mass-murderer Anders Breivik. "Maybe it's because his actions were on such a big scale that you can't really relate them to everyday things. I'm actually more interested in someone who might push in the queue here and wonder, 'okay, why did he do that, what kind of man is he?' Then I can start making up a story about what his life is like."

He was more intrigued by the Norwegian people's reaction to Breivik's atrocities. "It was very touching that people refused to react with anger and violence and paranoia. It was reassuring to realise that you live in a society of mostly decent people. Then the Norwegian news media started to think about what the international media was saying about Norway, and we got self-conscious about the way we reacted. And so we started writing about our reaction to what happened as if we had won a gold medal in the Olympics or something, and that was when I made a couple of comments about how this was not a competition in dignity, and if it was, we just lost. But we can still look back with pride at the spontaneous reaction of the people, I think."

The key to his success, Nesbo affirms once more, is to be interested in ordinary people rather than psychotic monsters. "The important thing is to live a life among your readers, have experiences they can relate to. But also I think it's good for writers if they are slightly crazy. That gives you that different view of life you need to be a good writer."

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

He admits then to being slightly crazy himself? He fixes me with that piercing gaze. "I guess I am. Or I try to be."

Police (Harvill Secker $37.99) is out now.

Save

    Share this article

Latest from Lifestyle

Premium
Lifestyle

Go ahead, have a ‘fridge cigarette’

23 Jun 06:00 AM
Lifestyle

Neve Ardern Gayford shows off 'American twang' in 7th birthday video

23 Jun 12:00 AM
Lifestyle

Jacinda Ardern's daughter Neve shows 'American twang' in birthday video

Inside Leigh Hart’s bonkers quest to hand-deliver a SnackaChangi chip to every Kiwi

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from Lifestyle

Premium
Go ahead, have a ‘fridge cigarette’

Go ahead, have a ‘fridge cigarette’

23 Jun 06:00 AM

New York Times: The internet is reframing the humble fizzy drink as an indulgent escape.

Neve Ardern Gayford shows off 'American twang' in 7th birthday video

Neve Ardern Gayford shows off 'American twang' in 7th birthday video

23 Jun 12:00 AM
Jacinda Ardern's daughter Neve shows 'American twang' in birthday video

Jacinda Ardern's daughter Neve shows 'American twang' in birthday video

Follow your nose: Where to get your truffle fix in Auckland this winter

Follow your nose: Where to get your truffle fix in Auckland this winter

22 Jun 10:00 PM
Why wallpaper works wonders
sponsored

Why wallpaper works wonders

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP