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Emma Hislop on her latest book, Ruin and Other Stories

By Emma Hislop
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21 Jun, 2023 08:00 PM6 mins to read

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Writer Emma Hislop. Photo / Ebony Lamb

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Emma Hislop (Kāi Tahu) is a Taranaki-based writer. Her work has appeared in literary journals and anthologies in New Zealand and overseas. She is heading to Australia in September on a month-long residency in the Blue Mountains and describes here the backstory to her latest book, Ruin and Other Stories.

The first story I wrote in the collection is set in South London and is titled The Game. It was 2013 and I’d returned home to New Zealand five years earlier, after a decade living overseas. Much of the time I’d lived in Brixton. A complicated friendship and a hideous Boris Johnson fruit and vegetable sculpture formed the beginning of that story. Something about the distance between London, where I spent much of my 30s and Wellington, where I now lived, was useful in sparking my memory and allowing me to see things clearly. I write fiction, but often the stories start with a kernel of truth, of personal experience. It’s probably that old “write what you know” thing. I love how anything can happen in fiction - and with short fiction, in particular, it’s like there’s nowhere to hide. Anxiety is almost my default setting and I’m fascinated by relationships, hyper-aware of what’s going on around me. I think I probably observe people quite acutely. That sounds creepy written down, I’m not a stalker.

People more clever than me have described Ruin as an exploration of power. It’s almost like hearing others describe the book has enabled me to frame it in a certain way. Now that the book is out in the world, I can see there are certain themes running through the collection, that I wasn’t aware of at the time I was writing the stories. I can see that I’m interested in power and the way in which it plays out, whether it be coercive and lurking in the background, or much more blatant. I think that’s Ruin’s main preoccupation, probably. I didn’t set out to write a violent book, and yet, here it is. That’s fascinating to me.

Fur is another story set in London, this time on the Underground. Anyone who has lived in London can probably relate to the experience of commuting to work on the Tube. I tried to get at this feeling of obsession and claustrophobia in the writing.

A good friend and I lived in Brighton in the UK in our 20s. We ran out of money and answered an ad in the newspaper for live-in chambermaids in Wales. The manor house was fancy and the pay was terrible, but we had a brilliant time. Only a few details stayed the same, but Sweet on the Comedown was sparked by that time. Housewarming was written in a house by Te Awakairangi, in the Hutt Valley. I’m interested in realism, and trying to get things to feel as real as possible on the page. That’s where my editor Anna Knox at Te Herenga Waka University Press was really brilliant. I mean, she was brilliant at lots of things. But she would say to me, “So something’s boiling in the pot on the stove? What’s in the pot?” Part of me would be like, it doesn’t matter. You can’t see in the pot. But she’d want to know that macro-level detail. And that just made the world even more real, I think and I’m so grateful for that expertise. A writing constraint I tried to set myself for this story was to keep everyone at the party inside the house. The characters kept wanting to leave. Sometimes writing feels like a form of madness.

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When my son was born, Lower Hutt Hospital accidentally threw out our placenta, because they needed the space in the fridge. I’m Māori and we’d told them we wanted to keep it. Accidents happen, but the story titled Missing is based on that. Some experiences stay with you. Reviewers have said this story is about post-natal depression. This was a surprise to me and made me wonder about those first years as a mum. I find it amazing that readers see things in the work that I haven’t been consciously aware of. It’s kind of spooky.

We moved to Taranaki when my son was 3, to be nearer my parents. The dog in Shadow is based on my parents’ dog, who has extreme separation anxiety. My dad hasn’t read the book, and my sister and I joke it’s because he’s worried he’s in it. But only his dog is in it.

#MeToo went viral in 2017 and this definitely impacted my writing. A number of the stories riff off real-life events taken from documentaries around that time. I was lucky to go to the Michael King Centre for a fortnight’s residency in 2020. I wrote all day and stayed up too late watching these grim documentaries.

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The cover for Ruin is a beautiful pop of colour. It’s by Maiangi Waitai, who’s a Whanganui artist. We have a lot of mutual friends. I was really amazed by how much freedom I had with the cover with Te Herenga Waka University Press. My editor sent a bunch of images through and we started having a discussion, really back and forth. And when I found this amazing artwork, called When Pushed Pull, it seemed to encapsulate the ideas I was trying to get out in my writing, I think really beautifully. And we were stuck for ages about how to overlay the text because it didn’t seem right to have it over the top of the artwork. And then Fergus Barrowman, the boss at THWUP, had this brilliant idea to have it around the outside. It’s very in the style of Rachel Cusk’s covers. I’m really pleased with it.

The book had a variety of different titles over the years. I was lucky to have the incredible writer Pip Adam as a writing mentor towards the end of this project. She may not remember this, but she came up with the title. It’s perfect. The word Ruin can be an end, but can also have potential. Things can grow from ruin too, which seems to fit. The stories can be hard to read at times but hopefully, by shining a light on them, some of the power is taken out of some of the violence that’s in them.

Ruin and Other Stories by Emma Hislop
Ruin and Other Stories by Emma Hislop

Ruin and Other Stories, by Emma Hislop (Te Herenga Waka University Press, $30) is out now.

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