NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / Entertainment

Making a splash: Jennifer Coolidge and Mike White discuss The White Lotus finale

By Alexis Soloski
New York Times·
13 Dec, 2022 08:12 PM7 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

Jon Gries as Greg and Jennifer Coolidge as Tanya in season two of The White Lotus. Photo / Fabio Lovino, HBO

Jon Gries as Greg and Jennifer Coolidge as Tanya in season two of The White Lotus. Photo / Fabio Lovino, HBO

Mike White always knew how it would end.

Months before the shoot began for the second season of HBO’s The White Lotus, which ended in a murderous finale this week (and if you have not yet seen that finale, now would be a fine time to stop reading), he called actress Jennifer Coolidge, his friend and a longtime collaborator. Coolidge’s Tanya, a lip-plumped heiress with a tenuous connection to observable reality, was one of only two characters to carry over from the first season, set at a five-star hotel in Hawaii, to this one, set at a sister property in Sicily.

“Jennifer,” he told her. “I’m sorry. You’re dying.”

He meant that in the finale, as not even the most obsessive fan had predicted, Coolidge’s Tanya, having shot her way through a yacht full of “high-class gays” intent on assassinating her, misjudges the distance from the deck to a dinghy and plunges, ineptly, to her death. In a filmed post-episode interview, White described the death as purposefully “derpy.”

In a season focused on desire and its consequences, the finale also saw a rekindling of the romance between the unhappily married Ethan (Will Sharpe) and Harper (Aubrey Plaza); a new understanding among the three generations of Di Grasso men (F. Murray Abraham, Michael Imperioli, Adam DiMarco); and triumph for the local young women Mia and Lucia (Beatrice Grannò and Simona Tabasco). Mostly unchanged: Tanya’s assistant Portia (Haley Lu Richardson), still making questionable fashion choices, and Cameron (Theo James) and Daphne (Meghann Fahy), the happily entitled young marrieds.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

On Sunday night, at Coolidge’s home, she and White watched the finale together. And on Monday morning, each logged on to discuss Tanya’s gauche, tragic demise and where the series, already renewed for a third season, might go from here. These are edited excerpts from the conversation.

Q: If the first season centred on wealth and privilege, why did this one fixate on sex and desire?

WHITE: Originally, I had a different concept. And then when I went to Sicily, those testa di moro sculptures (figurines inspired by a folk legend about sexual infidelity) are everywhere. It felt like a place where some classic male-female stories could be told with contemporary characters.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Q: Did you know from the start how Season 2 would end?

WHITE: In the first season, Tanya’s last line is, like, “I’ve had so many treatments in my life. Death is the last immersive experience I haven’t tried.” I was like, maybe that’s where to take her story. In Italian opera, the women are supposed to cry and die, and I just imagined that that could be an appropriate story for the site of Sicily and this battle of the sexes, and Tanya is a victim of that.

Discover more

Opinion

Opinion: White Lotus didn’t care about toxic masculinity after all

13 Dec 02:09 AM
Entertainment

The White Lotus star lifts lid on show's inner workings

12 Dec 11:31 PM
Entertainment

At 83, The White Lotus star calls the show among the best of his career

06 Dec 06:00 AM
Entertainment

Meet Leo Woodall, the breakout star of The White Lotus

30 Nov 10:28 PM

Q: During this season, fans on and off social media became obsessed with discovering who would die and how. Did you pay attention to the theories?

JENNIFER COOLIDGE: I thought they were hilarious. There were crazy things people said. Like, Tanya’s husband, Greg (probably in on the murder plot and played by Jon Gries), needs to come back and save her from those gays. But I loved it. Every possibility was exhausted.

WHITE: It’s funny, because 95 per cent of the theories would have been really shocking but as a writer; there’s no way I could have pulled that off. Like, Daphne kills everyone! But I do think this ending is a little more wild. I usually work in a more modulated reality. This was a bigger, operatic conclusion. Because I felt like that’s what the vibe was there. And also, the idea of Jennifer on the boat with those guys just seemed so funny.

The second season of The White Lotus was set in Sicily. Photo / Supplied
The second season of The White Lotus was set in Sicily. Photo / Supplied

Q: Jennifer, did you ever try to talk Mike out of this ending?

COOLIDGE: You can’t talk Mike White out of anything, really. But whenever Mike was in a really good mood, and laughing about something, I’d go, like, “I don’t have to die, right?”

WHITE: Even when we were shooting the scene in the ocean where Daphne finds her body. She was like, “Should we just do one take where I pull myself up on the shore? Just one?”

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

COOLIDGE: That’s an actress fighting for another season! I wanted to be practical in case Mike had a change of heart. I just wanted to leave the possibilities open.

Q: Why did you want a “derpy” death for Tanya?

WHITE: It reminds me a little of Jennifer, because Jennifer, like, she’ll come and do this incredible performance and then lock herself in a bathroom. I can see Jennifer in this situation actually killing all the bad guys, surviving this assassination attempt, and then tripping on her way out the door. Part of Jennifer is: She’s not going to go down without a fight. She wants to live. But at the same time, she’s maybe a little klutzy.

Q: Did you do any of the final stunt, Jennifer?

COOLIDGE: I begged to do it! But Mike already had the stunt double there at the shoot. And she had been waiting for hours. There was just no way Mike was going to tell her, waiting out on the cold boat, that she wasn’t going to have her moment. So Mike wouldn’t let me do it.

WHITE: She really did want to jump off the boat. Into freezing water. There was no way.

Q: So will any of the Season 2 characters make their way to Season 3?

WHITE: The truth is, I don’t really know. I just don’t know.

Q: Well, you’ve teased a season about Eastern spirituality and death, so allow me to suggest Ghost Tanya.

COOLIDGE: Thank you for trying to get me in there.

WHITE: I mean, especially if we’re doing something about the spiritual realm.

Mike White and Jennifer Coolidge at the Season 2 Premiere of The White Lotus. Photo / Getty Images
Mike White and Jennifer Coolidge at the Season 2 Premiere of The White Lotus. Photo / Getty Images

Q: During the first season, you shot in a Covid-19 bubble. This time, the actors and characters could leave the hotel. Did this shoot feel different?

COOLIDGE: Obviously, we had such a fun time on the first one. With the second one, I was like, Oh my God, we’ll never have that camaraderie. It’s impossible. Because with Covid it was so intense.

Actually, I thought it was just as good. I loved Hawaii, swimming in the ocean and hanging out with all the castmates at the end of the day and possibly getting eaten by sharks, the drama of that. But Sicily is so beautiful, and then the people ended up being really funny and interesting. I said to Mike, “Not only do you give acting jobs to people, you give them an experience.” It was so unpredictable and extraordinary.

Q: Do you have any regrets about the season? Are you sorry you killed off Tanya?

WHITE: I really love this story. I really thought it was a funny way to go. And right. I don’t have regrets about that.

But yesterday, I went over and watched the show alone with Jennifer. At one point, I was kind of laughing and I looked over at her, and she was so sad for Tanya. In that moment, I was like, Oh, this is the end for me and Jennifer. And Jennifer’s the reason I did White Lotus in the first place. Because I just wanted to write something for her and I just adore her. So it’s sad. I didn’t realise it until yesterday, but now I am sad. It’s going to be hard to do it without her. There’s definitely going to be something missing.

COOLIDGE: I didn’t expect, last night, to be as moved as I was.

Q: Have you forgiven him for killing you off?

COOLIDGE: No, not at all. I’ll forever be sad about this.

Q: The show has already been renewed for Season 3. So let’s just get this out of the way: Who dies next time?

WHITE: Maybe it’s like Kenny on South Park: Every season Tanya has to come in and just die all over again.

This article originally appeared in The New York Times.

Written by: Alexis Soloski

©2022 THE NEW YORK TIMES

Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

Latest from Entertainment

Entertainment

The five best films for your Matariki weekend watchlist

19 Jun 04:00 AM
Entertainment

Why matchmakers are conflicted about the new rom-com about matchmakers

18 Jun 05:00 PM
Entertainment

Tom Cruise, Dolly Parton to be awarded honorary Oscars

18 Jun 07:26 AM

Help for those helping hardest-hit

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from Entertainment

The five best films for your Matariki weekend watchlist

The five best films for your Matariki weekend watchlist

19 Jun 04:00 AM

Community and coming together are among the themes in these Kiwi classics.

Why matchmakers are conflicted about the new rom-com about matchmakers

Why matchmakers are conflicted about the new rom-com about matchmakers

18 Jun 05:00 PM
Tom Cruise, Dolly Parton to be awarded honorary Oscars

Tom Cruise, Dolly Parton to be awarded honorary Oscars

18 Jun 07:26 AM
Watch: Behind the scenes at this year's Smokefreerockquest and Showquest

Watch: Behind the scenes at this year's Smokefreerockquest and Showquest

18 Jun 06:00 AM
Inside Leigh Hart’s bonkers quest to hand-deliver a SnackaChangi chip to every Kiwi
sponsored

Inside Leigh Hart’s bonkers quest to hand-deliver a SnackaChangi chip to every Kiwi

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP