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Johnny Depp v Amber Heard: Trial juror claims Heard had 'crocodile tears'

By Megan Palin
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16 Jun, 2022 07:26 PM10 mins to read

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The jury didn't buy Heard's testimony and thought she had "crocodile tears", one of the jurors said in a post-trial interview. Photo / AP

The jury didn't buy Heard's testimony and thought she had "crocodile tears", one of the jurors said in a post-trial interview. Photo / AP

A juror in Johnny Depp's defamation case has revealed the jury was "very uncomfortable" with Amber Heard's testimony because there was a lack of evidence to support it and she appeared to cry "crocodile tears".

One of the jurors from the seven-person panel, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told ABC News exclusively that "a lot of Amber's story didn't add up" and "the majority of the jury felt she was more the aggressor".

"The crying, the facial expressions, the staring at the jury, all of us were very uncomfortable," the male juror said.

"She would answer one question and she would be crying and two seconds later she would turn ice cold … some of us used the expression 'crocodile tears'."

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Depp, meanwhile, kept his composure and was more believable, according to the juror.

"He just seemed a little more real in terms of how he was responding to questions. His emotional state was very stable throughout," he said.

US actor Amber Heard testifies during the Depp vs Heard defamation trial at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Virginia. Photo / AP
US actor Amber Heard testifies during the Depp vs Heard defamation trial at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Virginia. Photo / AP

The juror added that he felt both sides were "abusive to each other", but doesn't believe that "that makes either of them right or wrong".

"But to rise to the level of what she was claiming, there wasn't enough or any evidence that really supported what she was saying," he said.

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EXCLUSIVE: A juror in the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamation trial said what the jury concluded was "they were both abusive to each other" but Heard’s team failed to prove Depp’s abuse was physical. https://t.co/Ax4SMZUq2J pic.twitter.com/EMiMeqh5pn

— Good Morning America (@GMA) June 16, 2022

The biggest blow to Heard's credibility in the eyes of the jury was the "fiasco" revelation she hadn't donated US$7 million (NZ$10.9m) from her divorce settlement to charity as she told a UK talk show she had, the juror continued.

Heard told the trial that she "pledged the entirety" to the charity, despite earlier claiming it had already been donated.

"The video shows her sitting there telling the host she gave all that money away. And the terms she used in that video clip were 'I gave it away', 'I donated it', 'it's gone'. But the fact is, she didn't give much of it away at all," the juror said.

It comes after Heard declared she still loves Depp despite doubling down on her testimony that he viciously abused her during their marriage and claiming that he made good on a promise to globally humiliate her.

Amber Heard's stunning TV confession

In Heard's first interview since the verdict in the defamation case, NBC Today journalist Savannah Guthrie asked the actress if her pre-trial statement that she has "still (has) love for" Depp stands "after everything".

"Yes, absolutely," Heard responded in a teaser of the interview, set to air in full on Friday in the US.

"I love him. I loved him with all my heart and I tried the best I could to make a broken relationship work and I couldn't.

"I have no bad feelings or ill will towards him at all.

"I know that might be hard to understand or it might be really easy to understand if you've ever loved anyone."

Amber Heard sat down for her first post-trial interview on NBC's Today Show. Photo / NBC
Amber Heard sat down for her first post-trial interview on NBC's Today Show. Photo / NBC

Heard added that she "stand(s) by every word" of her testimony, including that Depp physically and sexually abused her with a wine bottle during their marriage.

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"To my dying day, I will stand by every word in my testimony," Heard continued.

"I never had to instigate it - I responded to it," she insisted, saying that audio clips of their fights were edited and caught a victim of abuse whose life was "at risk".

"When you're living in violence and it becomes normal - as I testified to - you have to adapt."

Still, she conceded, "I did do and say horrible, regrettable things throughout my relationship.

"I behaved in horrible, almost unrecognisable to myself, ways.

"I have so much regret," she said, blaming it on "being pushed to the extent where I didn't even know the difference between … right and wrong."

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US actor Johnny Depp gestures to spectators outside the court. Photo / AP
US actor Johnny Depp gestures to spectators outside the court. Photo / AP

Heard: Jury fell for a "fantastic actor"

Heard told Guthrie that she "feels as though" Depp delivered on his promise to subject her to "global humiliation" – as he threatened in a message admitted as evidence in court.

"I'm not a good victim, I get it," she said.

"I'm not a likeable victim, I'm not a perfect victim."

The jury in the high-profile trial between Depp and his ex-wife Heard ruled in favour of the Pirates of the Caribbean star after a six-week trial in Fairfax County, Virginia on June 1.

The jury found that Heard defamed Depp in a 2018 Washington Post article – in which she described herself as "a public figure representing domestic abuse" – that they agreed was false, defamatory and with malice, on all counts, and awarded him US$15m ($23.5m) damages, comprised of $10m ($15.7m) compensatory and a further $5m ($7.8m) punitive.

Heard told Guthrie that she doesn't blame the jury for not believing her testimony.

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"I actually understand," she said.

"He's a beloved character and people feel they know him. He's a fantastic actor.

"I'll put it this way, how could they make a judgment, how could they not come to that conclusion.

"They had said in those seats and heard over three weeks of non-stop, relentless testimony from paid employees and towards the end of the trial, randos, as I say.

"Again, how could they after listening to three-and-a-half weeks of testimony about how I was an uncredible person and not to believe a word that came out of my mouth."

The Aquaman star said she "would not blame the average person for looking at this and how it's been covered and not think that it is Hollywood brats at their worst".

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She said the marriage was "ugly" - but also at times "very beautiful".

"We were awful to each other. I made a lot of mistakes — a lot of mistakes," she continued.

"But I've always told the truth."

Amber Heard looked solemn as the verdict was read to the court. Photo / Court TV via AP
Amber Heard looked solemn as the verdict was read to the court. Photo / Court TV via AP

Speaking to Guthrie – who last week revealed her husband had done consulting work with Depp's legal team – Heard also commented on the intense scrutiny of her six-week trial and the overwhelming support for Depp on social media. The hashtag "Justice for Amber Heard" garnered 27 million views on TikTok, compared with one for Depp which hit 20 billion views.

"I don't care what one thinks about me or what judgments you want to make about what happened in the privacy of my own home, in my marriage, behind closed doors," Heard told Guthrie.

"I don't presume the average person should know those things. And so I don't take it personally. But even somebody who is sure I'm deserving of all this hate and vitriol, even if you think that I'm lying, you still couldn't look me in the eye and tell me that you think on social media there's been a fair representation.

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"You cannot tell me that you think that this has been fair."

.@SavannahGuthrie: On the first day of the trial you issued a statement, and part of the statement said, 'I still have love for Johnny.'

Amber Heard: Yes.

SG: Is that still true?

AH: Yes.

SG: After everything?

AH: Absolutely. I love him. I loved him with all my heart. pic.twitter.com/h49L6XdYuR

— TODAY (@TODAYshow) June 15, 2022

Heard described the six-week defamation trial as "the most humiliating and horrible thing I've ever been through".

"I have never felt more removed from my own humanity. I felt less than human," she said.

"Every single day, I passed for three, four sometimes six city blocks lined with people holding signs saying, 'Burn the witch', 'Death to Amber'," she said.

"After three-and-a-half weeks I took the stand and saw a courtroom packed full of Captain Jack Sparrow fans who are vocal, energised," she said, referring to Depp's Pirates of the Caribbean character.

The exclusive interview was secretly filmed in New York City on June 9, Deadline reports. To keep the special away from prying eyes, the interview was not filmed at NBC's iconic 30 Rock building.

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The full interview will air on Friday, June 17.

A US jury found Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamed each other, but sided far more strongly with the Pirates of the Caribbean star. Photo / Getty Images
A US jury found Johnny Depp and Amber Heard defamed each other, but sided far more strongly with the Pirates of the Caribbean star. Photo / Getty Images

A spokesperson for Heard told news.com.au about the interview: "Johnny Depp's legal team blanketed the media for days after the verdict with numerous statements and interviews on television, and Depp himself did the same on social media."

"Ms Heard simply intended to respond to what they aggressively did last week; she did so by expressing her thoughts and feelings, much of which she was not allowed to do on the witness stand," the spokesperson continued in a statement.

Earlier, Depp released a statement in response to the verdict saying "the jury gave me my life back".

"I am truly humbled," he continued.

"Six years ago, my life, the life of my children, the lives of those closest to me, and also, the lives of the people who for many, many years have supported and believed in me were forever changed.

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"False, very serious and criminal allegations were levied at me via the media, which triggered an endless barrage of hateful content, although no charges were ever brought against me.

"It had already travelled around the world twice within a nanosecond and it had a seismic impact on my life and my career."

Outside the court, Depp's lawyers received a rock star reception from the movie star's fans who cheered for and waved at them, ahead of a press conference. Speaking to reporters, the legal team thanked the jury for their "careful consideration".

Lawyers Camille Vasquez and Benjamin Chew said Heard's claims were clearly "defamatory and not supported by any evidence" and that they were "so grateful to the jury for their careful deliberations". They added that they were "truly honoured" to work with Depp on the case and that it was "now time to turn the page and look to the future".

Heard and her lawyer Elaine Bredehoft. Photo / AP
Heard and her lawyer Elaine Bredehoft. Photo / AP

Heard won one of her three defamation counterclaims against Depp and was awarded $2 million ($3.1m) in damages. The jury found that Depp's lawyer Adam Waldman defamed her when he told the Daily Mail she set up Depp in a hoax when the police came to their apartment in May 2016.

Heard appeared downtrodden and was pictured hugging her lawyer Elaine Bredehoft before leaving the court.

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In a statement to News Corp Australia following the verdict, Heard said she was disappointed "beyond words".

"I'm heartbroken that the mountain of evidence still was not enough to stand up to the disproportionate power, influence, and sway of my ex-husband," Heard said.

"I'm even more disappointed with what this verdict means for other women. It is a setback. It sets back the clock to a time when a woman who spoke up and spoke out could be publicly shamed and humiliated. It sets back the idea that violence against women is to be taken seriously.

"I believe Johnny's attorneys succeeded in getting the jury to overlook the key issue of Freedom of Speech and ignore evidence that was so conclusive that we won in the UK.

"I'm sad I lost this case. But I am sadder still that I seem to have lost a right I thought I had as an American – to speak freely and openly."

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