NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / Entertainment

Beastie Boys doco reveals why they're ashamed of their past

By Stephen Armstrong
The Times·
8 May, 2020 05:00 PM6 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

The Beastie Boys, who reveal in a new documentary why they are ashamed of their past.

The Beastie Boys, who reveal in a new documentary why they are ashamed of their past.

A new documentary by Spike Jonze reveals how the New York trio accidentally became what they hated, Stephen Armstrong discovers.

Zoom is not the ideal method for interviewing the Beastie Boys. The band's infamous tag-team rap style usually spills over into conversations with the press, leaving journalists bewildered. On Zoom, conversely, it's kind of awkward. There are gaps, overlaps and fumbled silences, followed by sudden walls of sound as everybody speaks at once. Although it suddenly occurs to me, halfway through, perhaps this is deliberate. There has never been a point in the band's career when they have not mastered technology while sounding ramshackle and messy. When Michael "Mike D" Diamond starts showing me Santa Claus gnomes, I wonder if I'm just being pranked.

Ostensibly we're on the video chat to discuss Beastie Boys Story, the band's homemade documentary, directed by long-time collaborator Spike Jonze. Adam "Ad-Rock" Horovitz describes it as "the story of the band Beastie Boys. I'm sorry, I meant the heartfelt story of the Beastie Boys. I'm sorry, I mean the emotional train wreck of our story." The conversations keep drifting to the big kickers in the piece: their shame at key parts of their career, the deep void that the band-ending death of Adam "MCA" Yauch in 2012 left in their lives and — above all — their apology to women.

"We started out as a hardcore punk band, with Kate Schellenbach as our drummer," Ad-Rock says. "We ended up a cartoon rap version of a 1980s metal band and we kicked Kate out. How wrong was that? When the Beastie Boys began, the majority of our friends were girls. It's embarrassing to think we let them down."

There's a key moment in the documentary when the duo unpick the lyrics to Girls, a stupid, disposable piece of clowning from their 1986 debut album, Licensed to Ill — including the lines "Girls, to do the dishes. Girls, to clean up my room. Girls, to do the laundry. Girls, and in the bathroom" — then they jump to an MCA lyric from 1994's Sure Shot: "I want to say a little something that's long overdue. The disrespect to women has got to be through."

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

The route from firing Schellenbach and recording Girls to Sure Shot is the through line in Beastie Boys Story — edited by Jonze from a stage show by Ad-Rock and Mike D to promote their eponymous 2018 book. "It wasn't supposed to be a documentary," Diamond explains, as Jonze jumps into the chat. "It was supposed to be a document of our show, then Spike decided otherwise." "Yeah, sorry," Jonze says. "What a dick."

The story follows the three scruffy Brooklyn white boys skiving from school to hang out on New York's club scene, forming a band, finding hip-hop, supporting Madonna on tour, worshipping Run-DMC and finally, with Licensed to Ill, becoming hip-hop's most marketable bad boys for white middle-American audiences, their image controlled by the founders of Def Jam: Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons.

Their timing was perfect. Run-DMC's 1983 hit Sucker MC's prompted acts such as the Fat Boys, Doug E Fresh and Slick Rick to mess with off-beat pop-culture samples, sharp wordplay and a playful sense of humour — easing rap on to the radio. The Beastie Boys' impish irony fitted in, but was layered over loose, wild punk sensibilities and effortless vocal interplay. This meant they also raised a middle finger to the shiny conformity of the late 1980s.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Under Russell and Rubin's guidance they drank, trashed hotel rooms, toured with a giant inflatable penis and had tabloid newspapers calling for them to be banned from the UK. (You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (To Party!) — still their biggest hit — defined their white-trash image but, they insist, was a joke that went horribly wrong.

"It was making fun of party bros and frat boys," Horovitz says. "We'd never actually met any but we thought they were hilarious to make fun of. Then it became a hit and gradually that's what we started to become. When we started becoming a self-caricature, Russell wouldn't pay us unless we carried on doing it. So we quit."

Discover more

Entertainment

Dance Monkey star: 'Why am I not happy?'

01 May 07:40 PM
Entertainment

Rapper 50 Cent admits his lyrics are 'misogynistic'

04 May 08:58 PM
Entertainment

Watch: Nightclub holds epic drive-thru rave to get around social distancing rules

05 May 02:07 AM
New Zealand

Music venues band together for campaign to stay afloat

06 May 12:43 AM

At which point the band nearly split. "I think everybody thought it was supposed to be the end of the story, right?" Diamond says with a smile.

Jonze met them around that time — they had moved to LA to record the underrated follow-up, Paul's Boutique, now hailed as a hip-hop landmark and were building a complex music, media and movie empire around them, Grand Royal. Like the documentary, the Grand Royal collective had a slightly ramshackle, handheld feel. It published a short-lived magazine, gave Jonze free rein with daft videos and, most important, signed Luscious Jackson — Schellenbach's new band. Jonze includes a chat with Schellenbach where she mocks the trio for becoming what they hated.

"When I met these guys, they were curious, hungry and loved a huge spectrum of things, from vintage Adidas to obscure musicians like Lee "Scratch" Perry," Jonze recalls. "So this doc was an attempt to capture the friendship at the heart of this. I talked to Mike and Adam and Yauch at different times about the past but never heard the whole story — that there was a fourth member of the band, she was a girl, one of their best friends, who they dumped and reconnected with years later. That seemed the story to me."

All the time, Jonze and the Boys make clear, Yauch was the visionary — yet this documentary goes out on Apple TV+, an unconventional choice for dirtbag former punks. Hip-hop, more than any other genre of music, understands Silicon Valley and its potential. What is it about hip-hop that means it can milk digital in a way no other genre or even industry has?

"Hip-hop is always about reinventing and forward-thinking," Diamond says. "You didn't matter in rap unless you came out with a new style. It's not about tradition. Rock bands always want to be like Led Zeppelin or Black Flag. Rappers want the new next thing and aren't embarrassed to be compensated for what they're doing."

Then a countdown appears in the corner of my screen — showing the remaining minutes before my Zoom time limit runs out. As the screen blinks out, it seems there's another thing they understand about online communication. It's the perfect way to stop a journalist asking pesky questions.

Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Beastie Boys Story is available on Apple TV+


Written by: Stephen Armstrong
© The Times of London

Save

    Share this article

    Reminder, this is a Premium article and requires a subscription to read.

Latest from Entertainment

Premium
Entertainment

TikTok made Addison Rae famous. Pop made her cool

19 Jun 06:00 AM
Entertainment

The five best films for your Matariki weekend watchlist

19 Jun 04:00 AM
Entertainment

Why matchmakers are conflicted about the new rom-com about matchmakers

18 Jun 05:00 PM

Help for those helping hardest-hit

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from Entertainment

Premium
TikTok made Addison Rae famous. Pop made her cool

TikTok made Addison Rae famous. Pop made her cool

19 Jun 06:00 AM

NY Times: The onetime social media superstar re-emerged as rookie pop star of the year.

The five best films for your Matariki weekend watchlist

The five best films for your Matariki weekend watchlist

19 Jun 04:00 AM
Why matchmakers are conflicted about the new rom-com about matchmakers

Why matchmakers are conflicted about the new rom-com about matchmakers

18 Jun 05:00 PM
Tom Cruise, Dolly Parton to be awarded honorary Oscars

Tom Cruise, Dolly Parton to be awarded honorary Oscars

18 Jun 07:26 AM
Inside Leigh Hart’s bonkers quest to hand-deliver a SnackaChangi chip to every Kiwi
sponsored

Inside Leigh Hart’s bonkers quest to hand-deliver a SnackaChangi chip to every Kiwi

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP