Now as to the "Fonterra" issue, why this is a big deal for all of us is because of Fonterra's size, and dairy's importance to this country's economy. Dairy and tourism are your big hitters, $12-13 billion a year. Now unlike tourism, which is made up of hundreds of thousands of people and companies and a huge slew of operators, Fonterra is one gigantic and by default enormously influential player.
You'll remember when it cocked it up in China over infant formula. Steven Joyce no less, a senior minister in the past government, set up office at Fonterra, to limit the international damage to our country.
So Fonterra goes beyond a business, it goes beyond rural New Zealand. And as such, its reputation and image is, to put it bluntly, rubbish.
Farmers are robust players, they call a spade a spade and that's why you got to like them.
They're individualists and hard workers and self-made operators, so it's possible some of the disquiet we hear would be there with anyone. In other words, there's always someone with an issue.
But what's indisputable is Fonterra's milk market share is dropping. Why? Because maybe its not just its image that's rubbish maybe farmers are over it and are going elsewhere.
Fonterra needs a rocket, Fonterra needs to be a better corporate. Fonterra needs to front and talk to all of us, it needs to be inclusive and communicative, it needs to have a better vibe than it does. It's a sitting duck waiting, if not wanting, to be hated.
Why would you want to operate that way?