It was a simple conversation with a customer but it was enough for a local optometrist to fly to Africa and spend two weeks providing eye care for children in an orphanage and school.
Specsavers Hastings optometrist Niall McCormack was seeing to a customer last year when he first heard about how the man and his wife were spending their retirement.
"They said 'since we've retired we've been working in an orphanage in Uganda, do you fancy coming and doing the eyes of the kids?' I said yes and it just went from there."
Having already volunteered for The Fred Hollows Foundation before, the 52-year-old said it was a great opportunity travel with his skillset and went ahead to buy his own plane tickets.
He spent one week at a not-for-profit primary school in Kenya, the Tamariki Learning Centre, before spending a week in Uganda working in an orphanage.