It's one of those blue sky and soft sun, lovely Northland winter days. Boats, bridges, birds, bunting - they float, fly, and also hang upside down in reflections on the Hatea River.

We dither for a moment about ''inside or outside'' which is silly because on a day like this, of course it has to be outside.

It's fitting that here, where Kathleen Drumm, the new chief executive of — here we go, it's a mouthful — the Whangārei Art Museum and Hundertwasser Art Centre (HAC) with Wairau Māori Art Gallery (WMAG), is having coffee, the long arm of a

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