Witnesses have alleged beatings, from ages as young as 12, and use of an array of weapons, including a pair of secateurs being lodged in one boy's arm, all on people brought from Samoa to work in the horticultural industry. There have also been allegations of not being paid.
Asked if he had ever done anything in the away of abuse, threats or violence against specified witnesses to make them fear being seen talking with people other than his family, he said he could not read their minds or what they were thinking.
Matamata had come to New Zealand as a 21-year-old in 1976, the jury had been told, and offences are alleged to have occurred over a period of 25 years, with Matamata now denying 13 charges of dealing in slaves and 11 of people trafficking.