When son Jonathan Gould was at the helm of the team, he says, a lot more home-grown players came through the franchise pipeline.
"The philosophy of Jonathan was — and I was one of his coaches — was that we wanted to bring in the younger element of Hawke's Bay United to come all the way through.
"How many of them come through now?"
A former Coventry City and Celtic goalkeeper, Jonathan first arrived in Napier in the summer of 1986-87 to coach Bay United in what is now the now ISPS Handa Premiership.
"People don't know the story but he [Jonathan] came out with a lad called Brian McAllister and a trip like that overseas I'm sure helped him in his career-playing days and he's now a goalkeeping coach at West Bromwich Albion," Gould snr says of his son, who was Phoenix goalkeeping coach during Ernie Merrick's reign.
McAllister is a former Wimbledon and Scottish international defender who helped the Napier City Rovers Club clinch the former national league crown in 1989.
Gould says Bay United captain/co-assistant coach Bill Robertson has been an outstanding success no matter where he has been.
Robertson, who became a father this year, returned to the Bay franchise after a stellar stint as captain and assistant coach with Team Wellington, including claiming back-to-back premiership crowns.
"He's been superb — his approach to the game, as an individual. Perhaps when he finishes playing he'll understand what he wants wherever he goes to work so he's been a fine example," says Gould.