Ask Spencer Kirk who his best friend is and he swivels from face to face in his adoring crew.
You get the feeling it's hard for him to pick.
Just as soon as he's got his arm around one mate, he's got the other arm around another.
"He likes to give hugs," the girls in the group tell me.
"He's always happy."
Spencer is 13 and has Down syndrome. But to his friends he's just "Spence".
Spencer loves Justin Bieber, singing and dancing, video games, Shrek, he's a bit of a joker, pretty good at card games, he loves reading and he likes girls.
Friend Andrei Tracey says Spencer "challenges" his peers. Another mate Liam Thompson says "[Spencer's] cool to hang out with ... he's just an ordinary person".
Relationships between disabled children and able-bodied children will be explored tonight when two education researchers give a public talk on disabled students' experiences of friendship and social relationships at school.
The women will also touch on how schools can ensure disabled children are a valued part of the group and have friends.
Dr Jude MacArthur, co-convenor of Inclusive Education Action Group, and Jane Lyle, whose master's degree focused on inclusion of children with intellectual impairments, will give a talk titled "In the Group, Making Friends".
On Thursday, Dr MacArthur will talk to educationists on schools' approaches to disabled children, in "Learning Better Together".
Ms Lyle said too often, children with disabilities are left on the sidelines.
She became interested in the friendships between able-bodied and disabled children when she learnt two of the children she knew with disabilities had developed friendships with able-bodied children - friendships that seemed entirely "normal".
Ms Lyle said while friendship was not something that could be taught directly, there were changes that could be made to the school ecology that would foster the development of the peer relationships.
Spencer's mum Maree Kirk said it was often adults' attitudes that held disabled children back. She said Spencer had excelled in the mainstream environment - with the help of a teacher aid and classroom teachers - and for the other children, it taken away "the mystery of disability".
Participating in everything that the other children did had created a huge circle of friends for Spencer and enabled him to develop a level of independence and be seen as the same as everyone else.
Tonight's talk is at the Omanu Surf Club in Mount Maunganui at 6.45pm. $10. Tomorrow's talk for educationists is at Baycourt, 1.30pm-5.30pm.
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