Two of New Zealand's rugby greats yesterday took time out of their busy schedules to swap secrets of the trade.

Newly appointed Blues coach Sir John Kirwan cosied up to Sir Graham Henry at one of Auckland's waterfront cafes.

The pair made the most of the sunny weather, sitting balcony-front at Kahve Cafe in St Heliers.

Sir John was no doubt keen to hear the former All Blacks coach's take on the Blues, whose disastrous season this year ended in a total of 12 losses from 15 matches.

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The former All Black and Auckland representative officially takes over from Pat Lam on Monday, August 13, and faces an uphill battle trying to pump life back into the Auckland-based Super rugby franchise.