NZ Herald
  • Home
  • Latest news
  • Herald NOW
  • Video
  • New Zealand
  • Sport
  • World
  • Business
  • Entertainment
  • Podcasts
  • Quizzes
  • Opinion
  • Lifestyle
  • Travel
  • Viva
  • Weather

Subscriptions

  • Herald Premium
  • Viva Premium
  • The Listener
  • BusinessDesk

Sections

  • Latest news
  • New Zealand
    • All New Zealand
    • Crime
    • Politics
    • Education
    • Open Justice
    • Scam Update
  • Herald NOW
  • On The Up
  • World
    • All World
    • Australia
    • Asia
    • UK
    • United States
    • Middle East
    • Europe
    • Pacific
  • Business
    • All Business
    • MarketsSharesCurrencyCommoditiesStock TakesCrypto
    • Markets with Madison
    • Media Insider
    • Business analysis
    • Personal financeKiwiSaverInterest ratesTaxInvestment
    • EconomyInflationGDPOfficial cash rateEmployment
    • Small business
    • Business reportsMood of the BoardroomProject AucklandSustainable business and financeCapital markets reportAgribusiness reportInfrastructure reportDynamic business
    • Deloitte Top 200 Awards
    • CompaniesAged CareAgribusinessAirlinesBanking and financeConstructionEnergyFreight and logisticsHealthcareManufacturingMedia and MarketingRetailTelecommunicationsTourism
  • Opinion
    • All Opinion
    • Analysis
    • Editorials
    • Business analysis
    • Premium opinion
    • Letters to the editor
  • Politics
  • Sport
    • All Sport
    • OlympicsParalympics
    • RugbySuper RugbyNPCAll BlacksBlack FernsRugby sevensSchool rugby
    • CricketBlack CapsWhite Ferns
    • Racing
    • NetballSilver Ferns
    • LeagueWarriorsNRL
    • FootballWellington PhoenixAuckland FCAll WhitesFootball FernsEnglish Premier League
    • GolfNZ Open
    • MotorsportFormula 1
    • Boxing
    • UFC
    • BasketballNBABreakersTall BlacksTall Ferns
    • Tennis
    • Cycling
    • Athletics
    • SailingAmerica's CupSailGP
    • Rowing
  • Lifestyle
    • All Lifestyle
    • Viva - Food, fashion & beauty
    • Society Insider
    • Royals
    • Sex & relationships
    • Food & drinkRecipesRecipe collectionsRestaurant reviewsRestaurant bookings
    • Health & wellbeing
    • Fashion & beauty
    • Pets & animals
    • The Selection - Shop the trendsShop fashionShop beautyShop entertainmentShop giftsShop home & living
    • Milford's Investing Place
  • Entertainment
    • All Entertainment
    • TV
    • MoviesMovie reviews
    • MusicMusic reviews
    • BooksBook reviews
    • Culture
    • ReviewsBook reviewsMovie reviewsMusic reviewsRestaurant reviews
  • Travel
    • All Travel
    • News
    • New ZealandNorthlandAucklandWellingtonCanterburyOtago / QueenstownNelson-TasmanBest NZ beaches
    • International travelAustraliaPacific IslandsEuropeUKUSAAfricaAsia
    • Rail holidays
    • Cruise holidays
    • Ski holidays
    • Luxury travel
    • Adventure travel
  • Kāhu Māori news
  • Environment
    • All Environment
    • Our Green Future
  • Talanoa Pacific news
  • Property
    • All Property
    • Property Insider
    • Interest rates tracker
    • Residential property listings
    • Commercial property listings
  • Health
  • Technology
    • All Technology
    • AI
    • Social media
  • Rural
    • All Rural
    • Dairy farming
    • Sheep & beef farming
    • Horticulture
    • Animal health
    • Rural business
    • Rural life
    • Rural technology
    • Opinion
    • Audio & podcasts
  • Weather forecasts
    • All Weather forecasts
    • Kaitaia
    • Whangārei
    • Dargaville
    • Auckland
    • Thames
    • Tauranga
    • Hamilton
    • Whakatāne
    • Rotorua
    • Tokoroa
    • Te Kuiti
    • Taumaranui
    • Taupō
    • Gisborne
    • New Plymouth
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Dannevirke
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Levin
    • Paraparaumu
    • Masterton
    • Wellington
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Blenheim
    • Westport
    • Reefton
    • Kaikōura
    • Greymouth
    • Hokitika
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
    • Wānaka
    • Oamaru
    • Queenstown
    • Dunedin
    • Gore
    • Invercargill
  • Meet the journalists
  • Promotions & competitions
  • OneRoof property listings
  • Driven car news

Puzzles & Quizzes

  • Puzzles
    • All Puzzles
    • Sudoku
    • Code Cracker
    • Crosswords
    • Cryptic crossword
    • Wordsearch
  • Quizzes
    • All Quizzes
    • Morning quiz
    • Afternoon quiz
    • Sports quiz

Regions

  • Northland
    • All Northland
    • Far North
    • Kaitaia
    • Kerikeri
    • Kaikohe
    • Bay of Islands
    • Whangarei
    • Dargaville
    • Kaipara
    • Mangawhai
  • Auckland
  • Waikato
    • All Waikato
    • Hamilton
    • Coromandel & Hauraki
    • Matamata & Piako
    • Cambridge
    • Te Awamutu
    • Tokoroa & South Waikato
    • Taupō & Tūrangi
  • Bay of Plenty
    • All Bay of Plenty
    • Katikati
    • Tauranga
    • Mount Maunganui
    • Pāpāmoa
    • Te Puke
    • Whakatāne
  • Rotorua
  • Hawke's Bay
    • All Hawke's Bay
    • Napier
    • Hastings
    • Havelock North
    • Central Hawke's Bay
    • Wairoa
  • Taranaki
    • All Taranaki
    • Stratford
    • New Plymouth
    • Hāwera
  • Manawatū - Whanganui
    • All Manawatū - Whanganui
    • Whanganui
    • Palmerston North
    • Manawatū
    • Tararua
    • Horowhenua
  • Wellington
    • All Wellington
    • Kapiti
    • Wairarapa
    • Upper Hutt
    • Lower Hutt
  • Nelson & Tasman
    • All Nelson & Tasman
    • Motueka
    • Nelson
    • Tasman
  • Marlborough
  • West Coast
  • Canterbury
    • All Canterbury
    • Kaikōura
    • Christchurch
    • Ashburton
    • Timaru
  • Otago
    • All Otago
    • Oamaru
    • Dunedin
    • Balclutha
    • Alexandra
    • Queenstown
    • Wanaka
  • Southland
    • All Southland
    • Invercargill
    • Gore
    • Stewart Island
  • Gisborne

Media

  • Video
    • All Video
    • NZ news video
    • Herald NOW
    • Business news video
    • Politics news video
    • Sport video
    • World news video
    • Lifestyle video
    • Entertainment video
    • Travel video
    • Markets with Madison
    • Kea Kids news
  • Podcasts
    • All Podcasts
    • The Front Page
    • On the Tiles
    • Ask me Anything
    • The Little Things
  • Cartoons
  • Photo galleries
  • Today's Paper - E-editions
  • Photo sales
  • Classifieds

NZME Network

  • Advertise with NZME
  • OneRoof
  • Driven Car Guide
  • BusinessDesk
  • Newstalk ZB
  • Sunlive
  • ZM
  • The Hits
  • Coast
  • Radio Hauraki
  • The Alternative Commentary Collective
  • Gold
  • Flava
  • iHeart Radio
  • Hokonui
  • Radio Wanaka
  • iHeartCountry New Zealand
  • Restaurant Hub
  • NZME Events

SubscribeSign In
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Home / New Zealand

<b>Two Drinks Max:</b> Lobby power

By Frances Morton
Herald on Sunday·
30 Oct, 2010 04:30 PM11 mins to read

Subscribe to listen

Access to Herald Premium articles require a Premium subscription. Subscribe now to listen.
Already a subscriber?  Sign in here

Listening to articles is free for open-access content—explore other articles or learn more about text-to-speech.
‌
Save

    Share this article

As thousands sign up to the <i>Herald on Sunday's</i> Two Drinks Max campaign, Government politicians are conspicuous by their absence. Graphic / Herald on Sunday

As thousands sign up to the <i>Herald on Sunday's</i> Two Drinks Max campaign, Government politicians are conspicuous by their absence. Graphic / Herald on Sunday

The Government believes New Zealand drivers aren't ready to moderate their drinking. We know they are. So take responsibility for keeping our roads safe by signing up: Two Drinks Max.

- Sign up at nzherald.co.nz here
- Sign up on Facebook here
- Use #2DrinksMax to show support on Twitter

When alcohol industry reps unleash their charm offensives on the corridors of power there is one office they dodge, that of Progressive leader Jim Anderton.

"They don't come and see me any more because it's not a pleasant experience for them," says the MP for Wigram, who is outspoken
on toughening up controls on the alcohol industry.

And as the multi-billion-dollar alcohol and hospitality industry - historically renowned for lobbying Parliament and donating cash to political parties - defends its patch in the face of pressure to lower the drink-drive limit, those left to mop up the mess after road accidents involving alcohol wonder just how much weight that lobby carries.

Anderton claims it is pressure from that industry that is behind the Government's failure to lower the drink drive limit from 80mg to 50mg alcohol (per 100 ml blood), despite strong recommendations from the Ministry of Transport and the Law Commission.

"There's only one answer, that has to be the power of the liquor lobby because there is no other logical answer," says Anderton. "The public opinion is on the side of cutting down on road deaths and serious accidents and that's a no-brainer."

Anderton, who restricts his drinking to a cool beer after mowing the lawn on a hot day and the occasional glass of wine, has signed up to the Herald on Sunday's Two Drinks Max campaign.

"People are now intolerant of stupidity," says Anderton. "It is stupid to uphold a law to legally drive while you're drunk."

He questions why the Government has not changed the law already, in the face of polls showing the majority of Kiwis are in favour of lowering the limit. Instead the Government has opted for a two-year research project into the impact of lowering the limit.

Although Prime Minister John Key has refused to sign up to the Two Drinks Max campaign, he has voiced tacit approval for a lower drink-drive limit, telling the New Zealand Herald earlier this year that he "would never have more than two beers or one glass of wine" before driving.

Minister of Transport, Steven Joyce, also restricts his alcohol intake to one or two drinks before driving but said it would be "inappropriate" to put his name to the campaign.

So why the back peddling? And who stands to lose from lowering the drink-driving limit?

Evidence to support a change is already in hand. Ministry of Transport reports estimate that lowering the drink-drive limit would save between 15 and 33 lives, and prevent between 320 and 686 injuries every year, corresponding to an annual cost saving of up to $238 million.

But the alcohol industry stands to lose many millions more if the drink-drive limit is lowered. A study published in the Australasian Medical Journal last year showed lowering the limit was one of the key concerns for the alcohol industry.

The study, Access to Confidential Alcohol Industry Documents: From Big Tobacco' to Big Booze', examined internal documents for key concerns and strategies of the drinks industry, by applying methods used to investigate big tobacco companies. The report concluded "the primary concern of the industry throughout is to maximise sales and profits and to minimise any constraints on its activities".

It's a slice of the pie worth fighting for. New Zealanders spend between $4 billion and $5 billion a year on alcohol - roughly $85 million a week, according to the Law Commission's 2009 report, Alcohol in our Lives.

And the industry is a huge employer, with the hospitality sector employing more than 70,000 people and a further 7270 working in manufacturing. The New Zealand Government has a long history of being entangled with and influenced by the alcohol industry. Conrad Bollinger documents the struggles between "the self-righteous prohibitionist and the profit-seeking brewer" in his 1967 book Grog's Own Country - The Story of Liquor Licensing in New Zealand.

"New Zealand's liquor trade has been described as a trade which is peculiarly susceptible of abuse, and which, as everyone knows, is of great political influence," writes Bollinger.

The book documents the alcohol industry rigging parliamentary votes, funding political campaigns and blatantly influencing parliamentary debate over licensing laws.

"Readers may be sceptical about the possibility of the trade taking such a direct hand in the business of law-making today as it apparently did 40 and 50 years ago," writes Bollinger. "But we must remember that the trade still has tremendous resources at its disposal."

And tactics used by the liquor industry over the decades have emerged in a new book about rugby writer and author Sir Terry (TP) McLean, whose father-in-law Percy Coyle made a career out of defending the liquor industry.

He became the secretary of the National Council of the Licensed Trade and, wrote McLean, "his job was to keep an eye on the Hill (the Wellington term for Parliament). He personally knew all of the parliamentarians and was on terms of the warmest friendship with the principal private secretaries of the leading cabinet ministers." Coyle "kept tabs" on members of the Press Gallery and every Christmas donated a 136-litre keg of beer to them.

McLean wrote that he suspected sympathetic MPs received agreeable presents. "Most decidedly, their campaigns at election time were financially supported."

Seventy-five years later the liquor industry is still courting Parliament. Herald on Sunday columnist Deborah Coddington says when she was in Parliament as an ACT MP her fridge was always stocked full by the booze lobby and that free alcohol for political party shindigs was part of parliamentary life.

Despite their constant presence, Wyatt Creech, former deputy prime minister and National MP, thinks the power of the lobbyists is overrated.

"I think individual MPs ... make up their own mind about these issues. The lobbies may press their case and send you correspondence but at the end of the day most of liquor legislation hasn't found favour with the alcohol industry but it has still been passed."

But Anderton maintains that although its power will eventually fade, the alcohol lobby still flexes its muscle with politicians. The liquor industry still has clout around Parliament, unlike the tobacco industry. It used to be exactly the same. If the liquor industry wants to know where it's going, have a look at the tobacco industry and that's where you'll be."

Wine writer and broadcaster Keith Stewart says where the industry and politics connect, vast sums of money are involved but "it's never a straight forward deal. It's all chum chum," he says. "It's not bribery like it used to be."

Stewart backs the Herald on Sunday's campaign because, he says: "It's popularising the notion of being responsible as opposed to popularising the notion of being irresponsible, which is what we've done for the last two generations."

Stewart says there is a great deal of denial of responsibility within the alcohol industry.

"Everybody you talk to, there is someone else causing the problem but every single participant in the industry has been part of the problem in New Zealand forever," says Stewart. "They all make cheap plonk because that's where their profits are made. They're turning sugar into alcohol."

Stewart recalls asking one manufacturer why he used sugar in his drinks. "Because kids don't like the taste of alcohol," he was told.

"We have a drinking problem in NZ; it's not going to go away," says Stewart. "What the liquor industry hate is when they're compromised by changes, for example drinking and driving, because it cuts down on the social use. If you can't get together with your friends to have a drink that's going to cut into your consumption of alcohol."

Hospitality Association chief executive Bruce Robertson confirms this. He is concerned a change in law would stop people going out to bars and restaurants, and that's the last thing his industry wants.

"The hospitality retail sector is hurting significantly from the downturn," says Robertson. "We're seeing businesses closing on a daily basis. Any measure that encourages people to stay at home, we don't think it's helpful."

Robertson refused to sign up to the Two Drinks Max campaign, saying the hospitality industry had been advising drivers for years to limit their intake to two drinks in the first hour and one drink every hour after that. "Our concern is having trained the population to 0.05 [50mg/100ml], two drinks in the first hour and one drink every hour thereafter, if you now say you're lowering it, those people are going to say, I'm not going to drink at all'.

"Despite all this rhetoric around evidence, there is no evidence that people between 0.05 and 0.08 are killing people on the roads. All the data around saving 33 lives are projections and hypothetical in different jurisdictions," says Robertson.

Distilled Spirits Association chief executive Thomas Chin also questions whether the scientific evidence the Ministry of Transport based its advice on was relevant to New Zealand and supports the Government's call to gather more research before lowering the limit.

"The research that is currently in the public domain relates to overseas jurisdictions and overseas conditions. What's applicable overseas is not strictly applicable in New Zealand," says Chin, who refused to sign his name to the Two Drinks Max pledge.

"What I will sign up to, is whatever is the law of the land," he says.

Chin does not know if lowering the limit will have any effect on sales. "It will have an effect on consumer behaviour. There are a lot of drinkers who drink and don't drive."

He points the finger at consumers, saying the drink-drive issue is one of personal responsibility.

The corporate manager of DB Breweries, Mark Campbell, took a similar line, saying DB encourages the responsible consumption of alcohol. He urges New Zealanders to be aware of how much a standard drink really is.

"The new two drinks' message generated by the Herald on Sunday appears to be resonating with Kiwis but some consumers may need greater clarity about what constitutes two drinks. The alcohol content in a glass of wine is very different to a glass of beer for example and there are a multitude of glass sizes and drink options."

The nation's other giant booze brewer, Lion Nathan, also declined an invitation to sign up to the Two Drinks Max campaign. Corporate affairs director Neil Hinton says: "Lion Nathan does not have a view on what the correct adult blood alcohol level should be but welcomes the Government's moves to gather factual New Zealand based data to better inform this debate."

Lion Nathan did not make a submission to the parliamentary select committee currently considering changes to the drink driving laws.

In a submission to the parliamentary select committee this week Clubs NZ chief executive, Larry Graham, claims cutting the limit will ruin clubs financially. His organisation represents 300 chartered clubs employing 2500 staff and catering to 270,000 members.

"The decline in patronage, which will be inevitable following a reduction in BAC to 0.05, will see the economic viability of clubs in jeopardy and thereby reduce the number of premises where controlled drinking may occur," says Graham.

While it is perhaps not surprising that the alcohol industry has refused to sign up to the Two Drinks Max campaign because, as Robertson indicated, it fears the impact of a lower drink-driving limit on profits across the bar, lack of support by the Automobile Association (AA), an organisation strongly focused on road safety, for a law change is surprising.

General manager for motoring affairs, Mike Noon, says AA is "complimentary" of the Herald on Sunday's campaign and commends it for raising awareness on the issue but he does not think lowering the drink drive limit would be a "silver bullet". Noon says the problem lies with serious drink drivers, who are continually caught well over the limit and he doubts they will be signing up to the campaign.

"AA has called for every driver involved in a fatality or serious injury to be tested for alcohol and drugs. We want to look at the evidence of where accidents are happening, then we want a much more detailed plan." he says.

What we do know, unequivocally, is that when the blood alcohol content of drivers increases, the risk of them being in a fatal crash increases exponentially. A driver aged 30 or over who has consumed a couple of drinks (blood alcohol level of 50mg) is 5.8 times more likely to crash than a sober driver but if that driver keeps on drinking and gets behind the wheel with a blood alcohol limit of 80mg - the current limit - they are 16.5 times more likely to be involved in a crash causing death.

The numbers are even more chilling for a driver aged 20 to 29 who drinks to the current drink-drive limit. They are 50 times more likely to kill you or themselves on the road than a sober driver. And, lost profits aside, those are difficult figures to argue with.

Discover more

New Zealand

<b>Two Drinks Max:</b> Readers pledge to save lives

30 Oct 04:30 PM
New Zealand

<b>Two Drinks Max:</b> Crash driver far from over limit

30 Oct 04:30 PM
New Zealand

<b>Two Drinks Max:</b> Who has made the pledge

06 Nov 04:30 PM
New Zealand

<b>Two Drinks Max:</b> Free trip home for drinkers

30 Oct 04:30 PM
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Save

    Share this article

Latest from New Zealand

New Zealand

Couple's renovation dream almost derailed by court's error in $8k window dispute

31 May 06:00 AM
New ZealandUpdated

Fur Patrol hit back at Bishop's 'what a load of crap' Stan Walker remarks

31 May 05:53 AM
New Zealand

Armed police arrest man after three-hour negotiation at Dunedin property

31 May 05:06 AM

Gold demand soars amid global turmoil

sponsored
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.

Latest from New Zealand

'Community have their eyes': Police recover stolen pounamu

'Community have their eyes': Police recover stolen pounamu

31 May 06:06 AM

Ngāi Tahu members need a permit to collect pounamu from rivers.

Couple's renovation dream almost derailed by court's error in $8k window dispute

Couple's renovation dream almost derailed by court's error in $8k window dispute

31 May 06:00 AM
Fur Patrol hit back at Bishop's 'what a load of crap' Stan Walker remarks

Fur Patrol hit back at Bishop's 'what a load of crap' Stan Walker remarks

31 May 05:53 AM
Armed police arrest man after three-hour negotiation at Dunedin property

Armed police arrest man after three-hour negotiation at Dunedin property

31 May 05:06 AM
Explore the hidden gems of NSW
sponsored

Explore the hidden gems of NSW

NZ Herald
  • About NZ Herald
  • Meet the journalists
  • Newsletters
  • Classifieds
  • Help & support
  • Contact us
  • House rules
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of use
  • Competition terms & conditions
  • Our use of AI
Subscriber Services
  • NZ Herald e-editions
  • Daily puzzles & quizzes
  • Manage your digital subscription
  • Manage your print subscription
  • Subscribe to the NZ Herald newspaper
  • Subscribe to Herald Premium
  • Gift a subscription
  • Subscriber FAQs
  • Subscription terms & conditions
  • Promotions and subscriber benefits
NZME Network
  • The New Zealand Herald
  • The Northland Age
  • The Northern Advocate
  • Waikato Herald
  • Bay of Plenty Times
  • Rotorua Daily Post
  • Hawke's Bay Today
  • Whanganui Chronicle
  • Viva
  • NZ Listener
  • What the Actual
  • Newstalk ZB
  • BusinessDesk
  • OneRoof
  • Driven CarGuide
  • iHeart Radio
  • Restaurant Hub
NZME
  • About NZME
  • NZME careers
  • Advertise with NZME
  • Digital self-service advertising
  • Book your classified ad
  • Photo sales
  • NZME Events
  • © Copyright 2025 NZME Publishing Limited
TOP