But it is fact that gaming machines can cause serious harm to some people.
So it is also fact that these grants are only possible (even in some part) because of that harm.
Whanganui organisations get much-needed grant money but many more dollars leave the pockets of gamblers.
Many are those who least can afford it.
We can either hold our nose and accept that or we can come up with a smarter model for community funding.
If income from pokies is falling - and NZCT really cares about the community organisations it helps fund - maybe it could lead the charge in finding innovative ways to raise cash for the grants it distributes.
Meanwhile, NZCT had other arguments around it being better to have people gambling in controlled gaming venues rather than using increasingly accessible and unregulated online gambling sites.
That is legitimate.
But using the threat of funding drying up for kids' sport or other community activity if a policy aimed at reducing gambling harm continues is not.