In one of the recordings played to the court, the target of the sting says: "He's 14 and um, he was very, very yummy ... And he was very keen.
"I mean, I couldn't believe it the first time that I um picked up a young guy, probably, I don't know, 14 maybe, um at a park where some of the locals were, and um I said to him oh **** you know, how are we going to, and he said oh we just get a taxi ..."
"The taxi driver turns around and says: 'You know this boy's only 14 ..."'
The accused denies charges of organising and promoting child sex tours - the first such charges in New Zealand. The trial continues.