All I am asking is that you look at it. You have the capacity to pull together the facts and figures. Check the re-offending and recidivism rates of those inmates who have joined Man Up. Contact social services to assess the engagement of Man Up members. Call the kura of Man Up members' children to see whether there has been change with the kids.
Talk to whānau, hapū and iwi, who see the changes in these Man Up brothers.
Consider the facts about Man Up please. And if those facts show Man Up can deliver positive results, then offer them a contract. And if it doesn't, then don't.
But don't personalise this in an attack on Tamaki and his followers. This is a serious issue. The prison population has cracked the 10,000 ceiling. And more than half of those people, Kelvin, are Ngāpuhi — your people ... and mine.
So here's my offer. Me and Willie Jackson host a dinner for you and Brian to consider the issues and agree on a pathway forward. (I haven't spoken to Willie or Brian yet, but I'm sure they'd agree).
Kelvin, this issue is bigger than you and Brian Tamaki. And it's bigger than me and you too. Let's do this.
HONE HARAWIRA
Mana