At least Grant Robertson showed he had a sense of humour as he tried to sell the Labour sizzle, saying success isn't always as it appears to be, just as the winner of ten-week reality TV show The Bachelor discovered.
He likened that to the on-again off-again relationship of Key and English when it comes to tax cuts. They were initially off English's table but a few days later they were the centrepiece of Key's three billion dollar election year banquet.
Robertson says they should stop teasing the electorate and spell out exactly how they'd be paid for in Thursday's tome, or take them off the table altogether. This, of course, won't happen.
Labour's carrot to the hungry electorate is to immediately establish a Tax Working Group to figure out who's paying their fair share and who's not - which is hardly a vote catcher.
It's a bit like John Key's jobs summit that he established on taking office and the nine-day working fortnight he said would be a priority. We're still waiting and unemployment's still with us.
The fact is, when you've got a growing job market you're always going to have unemployment as business plays catch-up, and while you've got tax accountants you'll always have avoidance.
There's no easy answer, but being in Government at least gives you a greater opportunity to come up with one.
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