One got talked into it during her spin exercise class while the other is a cycling mainstay who never needed a coach, but both Janice O'Brien and Adam Hamlin rode the guidance of Lyall Hastie to national masters medals last week.
Hastie has been coaching O'Brien and Hamlin for the 2017 World Masters Games in April, and had the chance to test around four months of training at the Vantage Windows & Doors Age Group Track National Championships in Cambridge.
In Masters competition at nationals, due the fluctuating rider numbers and abilities from year to year, entrants must not only finish first but also achieve an acceptable time in order to get the gold medal.
"They're getting right up there, Masters 9 or 10 [level]," Hastie said.
"They have to break the standard to get a medal."