Ben Russell is the Head of Rural Banking for Heartland Bank and long time friend of The Country.
Host Jamie Mackay gets straight to the niceties by calling Ben a 'grim reaper' in his outlook toward the dairy industry. Is he still a bit doom and gloom or does he see a light at the end of the tunnel?
Ben Russell reckons it's time for a good hard look at the strategy that underpins the dairy industry.
Have a listen to the full interview in the Soundcloud embed below:
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