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Kerre Woodham: Those dinosaurs need retraining

By Kerre McIvor
5:30 AM Sunday Oct 28, 2012
Alasdair Thompson. Photo / Richard Robinson

Alasdair Thompson. Photo / Richard Robinson

I'm sure it was a slip of the tongue. When Paul McKay, the spokesman for Business New Zealand, was making a submission on behalf of the organisation against Sue Moroney's extended paid parental leave bill, he claimed that women needed retraining when they re-entered the workforce after taking maternity leave.

This "human capital depreciation", as he so charmingly put it, was yet another cost that business would have to bear, on top of the costs associated with parental leave. What a stupid thing to say.

Sue Moroney came back with a beauty of a rejoinder. People don't always need retraining on their return to work, she said. Look at Stephen Donald. He kicked the winning goal in the Rugby World Cup - and he'd been away whitebaiting. Sue 1, Paul 0.

The reason so many people (not just women) took umbrage at the comments was that they reinforced the perception that business advocates are a bunch of hoary old misogynists.

The statement harked back to the Alasdair Thompson comments about women being more prone to taking sick leave and that some women suffered terribly once a month and that may be a reason they were paid 12 per cent less than men. That story ran for days.

A Television New Zealand reporter searched the company's HR records and found that in its organisation, at least, men took more sick leave than women; others took to social media to express their contempt for the man; and ultimately the remarks cost Thompson his job.

As an aside, a young friend of mine was green with pain when I visited her in her office one day. She was having a terrible period and I told her she should be home in bed. "I can't!" she moaned through gritted teeth. "I keep thinking about Alasdair bloody Thompson." So she soldiered on.

If Paul McKay had said "people" needed retraining on returning to the workforce, there wouldn't have been such a fuss, but because business advocates have previously been tarred with the misogynist brush, offence will be taken where perhaps none was meant.

I have a certain sympathy for employers over paid parental leave, especially small to medium enterprise employers.

Many of them would love to take a year off to spend with their babies, but they simply cannot afford to. There are arguments to be made against the bill - but a claim that "women need retraining" isn't one of them.

You don't lose all the skills that made you employable in the first place in six months - even a year - and if you're working in an industry that changes rapidly, well, all staff would need constant retraining, so what's wrong with retraining someone who is returning to work?

A talkback caller, who said he was an employer, rang on the subject and said we women were crazy, insane even, for taking offence. We were all bloody irrational man-hating feminists who should get on our broomsticks.

It was like listening to a dinosaur roaring with insults straight from the 70s and reinforces that some old men do think women are flaky hormonal idiots who probably shouldn't be in the workforce anyway.

Maybe Business NZ could think about bringing on board businesswomen who could offer them a little perspective. Of the 18 people on the Business NZ Council, it seems only one is a woman. I'm sure a couple more would be useful additions to the council - once we've trained them up, of course.

By Kerre McIvor

- Herald on Sunday

Richard D (Tauranga) | 03:04PM Sunday, 28 Oct 2012
Shooting the messanger with your pc nonsense, ignores the reality of the disadvantage child bearing women will now have increased in the job application stakes. Comming from talkback world I would have thought you would take the conspiracy angle, being the underlying aim of this change is to keep women out of the workforce.
Cathy Thomas () | 03:07PM Sunday, 28 Oct 2012
This is so amusing. In my experience, people who have not been the ones to take time off work to raise children need considerably more time to complete or 'manage' tasks. Those who have successfully managed a home, children and a job know the value of every minute and how to use it wisely to succeed. Perhaps this is the best training of all. Alastair and Paul should give it a go - then they would realise it should be mandatory!
Cathy Thomas
Structural Engineer
Econo Misty (New Zealand) | 03:07PM Sunday, 28 Oct 2012
Labour cannot seem adjust to the new financial reality - ie: the days of 'tax and hope' are gone! Under Cullen we rode a huge commodity boom so he doled out more bribes to get votes.

Even when the GFC hit he handed out WFF and free loans to students. Well there is nothing left -but Moroney offers yet more and more handouts in the form of nice warm and fuzzy parental leave. Yes it would be nice alright, but what else would be cut? Oh so they will just tax more, ok well most of the 'rich' have gone mining so there is only the middleclass taxpayers left.

Any attack on the proposal has been hijacked by feminists as some sort of women hating issue, when in fact its to do with affordability. We really do deserve all we get - its spend, spend, spend. WHen that runs out it they just sell off assets to keep the bloat and spendup going in a truely Greek-like downward spiral of entitlements and overspending!
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