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Inside Money: Technical issues for CGT experts

By David Chaplin
9:30 AM Monday Jul 18, 2011
David Cunliffe. 
Photo / Martin Sykes

David Cunliffe. Photo / Martin Sykes

Before David Cunliffe's live chat on the NZ Herald website was unfortunately aborted due to his technical issues last Friday I had a few questions lined up for Labour's finance spokesperson.

Primarily, I wanted to know whether under its proposed capital gains tax (CGT) regime there would be room to restore KiwiSaver incentives and contributions to the NZ Superannuation Fund.

I had nothing to ask about the CGT itself. Perhaps that's because I was ambivalent about it - nice idea in theory, maybe, difficult to implement, probably.

Also, I hadn't read Labour's policy, which you should, right, before forming an opinion?

Figuring that Sunday couldn't get any more boring than it already was, I waded into the CGT policy on Labour's built-for-purpose website.

You can see that this is very much a draft policy with many "issues to be referred to the Expert Panel", including this quirky one:

"At present in New Zealand, while there is no general capital gains tax, individuals who regularly and intentionally trade for capital gain have their income from this source taxed as part of the personal income tax system, at the marginal tax rate," the Labour paper states.

"There is no intention for traders in capital assets to be taxed less than at present once a CGT is in force. The Expert Panel will explore means of ensuring that this does not occur."

That is, there will not be a "simple low flat rate of 15 per cent" for the CGT under this model. If you're judged to be a trader - maybe one of those guys trading CFDs (or currencies) from the golf course - you will be taxed on capital gains at your marginal rate.

Fair enough, those golfers deserve a bit of stick.

But I couldn't find any mention in the Labour proposal that dealt with the current CGT exemption granted to PIE funds that invest in New Zealand and certain Australian shares.

Will the 15 per cent CGT apply to the PIEs?

Please forward this technical issue to the Expert Panel.

By David Chaplin
Fred (Dunedin) | 11:15AM Monday, 18 Jul 2011
One of a million unanswerd questions. For example, what is the situation of a homeowner who moves for job transfer or cother change of circumstances, and purchases another property - then finds there exisitng home has failed to sell unconditionally bby the purchase date of the new one?

Obviously the new one is now the primary residence, so is the homeowner now taxed on the gain of the origiinal property, which he may have held for decades, when it eventually sells? What if the homeowner unwillingly becomes a landlord for a year or so because of a poor market?
Rodney (Howick) | 11:15AM Monday, 18 Jul 2011
Why does nobody mention this point. CGT will have to be applied across the board to All investments otherwise the problem will simple move sideways. This leads me to KiwiSaver. Surely this has to be included in CGT too. Anyone cashing their Kiwisaver holdings will be subject to CGT too. So even investing in the Govt. will penalise the poor P*s too.
Dean (New Zealand) | 03:10PM Monday, 18 Jul 2011
CGT won't apply to Kiwisaver. Http:/www.interest.co.nz/kiwisaver/54415/kiwisaver-payouts-exempt-labours-plan-capital-gains-tax-doubts-about-more-tinkering-
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