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Kerre Woodham: I'll go for fire and brimstone

By Kerre McIvor
4:00 AM Sunday Dec 20, 2009
'Divine sperm' makes for awkward Christmas conversation. Photo / Supplied

'Divine sperm' makes for awkward Christmas conversation. Photo / Supplied

I do wish churches would get back to core business and start laying down the moral law, delivering thundering nightmare-inducing sermons and ministering to the poor.

My dad always said no good would come of allowing guitars and folk songs into services, and he was right. All this faffing around trying to be edgy and relevant is embarrassing. It's like watching your parents dance.

St Matthew-in-the-City is the latest culprit, with its Saatchi & Saatchi-generated billboard depicting a dejected looking Joseph and a disappointed Mary in bed. The caption read: "Poor Joseph. God is a hard act to follow." Implying, of course, that God is the Man - capital "M" - in the sack and Joseph is a poor second.

The billboard has generated much debate, with some saying it's offensive and others saying religious maniacs need to lighten up. Predictably, Family First is in the offended camp.

But really, Bob McCroskrie's great-great-grandfather was probably the first man to cover the legs of pianos in Victorian England, so as not to offend the sensibilities of the ladies. The Catholic Church had a milder response, saying the billboard was inappropriate and disrespectful. On the other hand, archdeacon Glynn Cardy is beside himself with excitement, saying the agency has fulfilled the brief. He says the church wanted to get people to think more about the meaning of Christmas. Is it about a spiritual male God sending down sperm so a child would be born, or is it about the power of love in our midst, as seen in Jesus?

Although I don't think the billboard was especially offensive, I think it was probably just a bit too arch. I don't know about you, but Christmas has never been about God and sperm. It's a time to be with people you love, sharing what you have with those who might need a bit of help and for me, it's about doing a moral stock take. How much have I done for others this year, and what more could I do? Not wondering whether bodily fluids were ever mingled between God and Mary - or for that matter, Joseph and Mary. St Matthew-in-the-City prides itself on being "at the progressive end of the Christian continuum", but the way it's promoting itself, its future seems more assured as a venue for fashion shows rather than a place of worship.

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By Kerre McIvor

- Herald on Sunday

Tony Peterson (England) | 09:53AM Monday, 21 Dec 2009
If they are being honest, Catholic scholars know that the virgin birth legends and resurrection myths were added to gospels in the 4th century AD. The pope's own library includes one of the oldest manuscript Bibles, c 330AD, known as Codex Vaticanus, in which the virgin birth stories in Luke and resurrection stories in Mark are missing - for the very good reason that Eusebius of Caesaria (the most likely author) had not at that point added them.
So there is no point in Catholics getting upset over what they think dishonours a 2000 year old tradition of truth, but is really only 1650 year old work of creative fiction.
I understand their distress, but we do have to face facts. I wasn't facing them when I allowed myself to be ordained in St Patricks in 1966. Truth is not a real concern for the Catholic church. I wish it was.
mtv4me (Whangarei) | 09:53AM Monday, 21 Dec 2009
I think the billboard is offensive and sleazy, as if we need to be reminded that there is already enough of that around, who wants to talk about it? it's Xmas a time to think of peace and harmony; this minister thinks its a joke, how can he be taken seriously by his parish?
Ross Miller (New Zealand) | 09:53AM Monday, 21 Dec 2009
Well done, Kerre Woodham.
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